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[Albion Rob]

The bottom line is that if he had been scoring the goals to keep us in this division (and think of all the draws, would only have taken four or five!) then we would all be prepared to fall at his feet right now.

Sadly, it hasn't really happened for him for long periods of the season but with the step down a division and a summer's break, hopefully he'll come back stronger and hungrier and make a real go of it and fire us to promotion.

 

[goldstone]

The lad has talent, no question.

What he needs to win over the fans (and to be a better footballer) is to look at the kind of 100% effort that someone like Gary Hart puts in to every game. A combination of his undoubted talent and a good deal more effort would result in a very positive change in people's opinions.

 

[TSB]

Could be the biggest waste of £250,000 EVER!!

Was absolutley shocking today,our Championship survival hinged on him putting that ball away today and he bottled it.

The money could have been spent much more wisely IMO on someone who could have contributed much more that a bag load of tricks and flicks

Maybe im just angry about today still but the kid was piss poor today,and has been a dissapoinment all season IMO.

You're a flaming idiot mate!

The ONLY player contributing anything towards us getting back in the match was CKR and you're slating him? How about when he beat 4 players on his own? Terrible that was....what a dire waste of money!

His transfer fee and wages for a year are 1/3 of what Lee Trundle cost just to buy and you think he's not worth it?

Your opinions we could do without, as bad as dwayne!

 

[Les Biehn]

Jesus Christ, will people crawl out of Gary Hart's arse, yes he does always put in 100% but if we had 11 Gary Harts in the team we wouldn't be in this division. A football team usually has some 100% work horses and some highly talented individuals. They both contribute to the team in different ways and both have different styles of play. Gary Hart is a seasoned pro, CKR is a young kid. The comparisions of effort are ridiculous, and not just because CKR puts in way more effort than the minority on here give him credit for.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

And all of your opinions about his attitude are based on what personal experience of him. You experiences and use of the term bling are probably those that certain industries have sold to you. You have never seen Colin wearing any BLING yet you still label him. You don't count but unfortunatley some of those who do are no better

The people who slag off a talented young player are unlikely to read this Debo.

He seems to be a thoroughly decent, talented young man - who we hope will repay the Club's faith by scoring a hatful of goals for the Albion.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Not sure what to make of all this.

Nobody can possibly blame our impending relegation on that miss at the weekend. Players miss chances all the time, even Rooney and Ronaldinho, it just happens that in the context of our situation, and the fact that we don't create many chances in any case, it was an easy target.

Clearly CKR has bags of ability, as well as having age and pace on his side. He appears to have got fitter, as it was very noticeable earlier in the season that he faded dramatically after about 70 minutes. He's skilful, with great shooting ability, Saturday notwithstanding.

That's the positive. Even his family, I'm sure, would have to acknowledge that he's far from the finished article, however.

It's frustrating to see him jump for so many headers, all the time looking at the defender and not the ball, which gives the referee all the invitation he needs to infer CKR's not going for the ball, and award a foul against him. I'm happy to concede football is nothing like as easy as most of us fans would like to believe, but that's just basic stuff. And whether this is a right or wrong assumption, if you do that, it LOOKS to the watching masses that you're more concerned about getting hurt than getting the ball.

Likewise, getting tackled and then sitting on the ground looking incredulous that you didn't get a free kick- even schoolboy footballers get taught to play to the whistle. That crunching tackle he made at the weekend (while on that mazy run) had the crowd on its feet, principally as it's the first time we've REALLY seen CKR get stuck in- and we loved it. More of that, Colin, and people will be eating out of your hand. You don't have to turn into Norman Hunter, just the odd bone-cruncher, preferably on one of the opposition's more annoying players, that'll do nicely.

Little things, but they'd make all the difference. CKR is clearly young enough to learn and improve- I hope he's smart enough.

 

[Ray the Otter]

Not sure what to make of all this.

Nobody can possibly blame our impending relegation on that miss at the weekend. Players miss chances all the time, even Rooney and Ronaldinho, it just happens that in the context of our situation, and the fact that we don't create many chances in any case, it was an easy target.

Clearly CKR has bags of ability, as well as having age and pace on his side. He appears to have got fitter, as it was very noticeable earlier in the season that he faded dramatically after about 70 minutes. He's skilful, with great shooting ability, Saturday notwithstanding.

That's the positive. Even his family, I'm sure, would have to acknowledge that he's far from the finished article, however.

It's frustrating to see him jump for so many headers, all the time looking at the defender and not the ball, which gives the referee all the invitation he needs to infer CKR's not going for the ball, and award a foul against him. I'm happy to concede football is nothing like as easy as most of us fans would like to believe, but that's just basic stuff. And whether this is a right or wrong assumption, if you do that, it LOOKS to the watching masses that you're more concerned about getting hurt than getting the ball.

Likewise, getting tackled and then sitting on the ground looking incredulous that you didn't get a free kick- even schoolboy footballers get taught to play to the whistle. That crunching tackle he made at the weekend (while on that mazy run) had the crowd on its feet, principally as it's the first time we've REALLY seen CKR get stuck in- and we loved it. More of that, Colin, and people will be eating out of your hand. You don't have to turn into Norman Hunter, just the odd bone-cruncher, preferably on one of the opposition's more annoying players, that'll do nicely.

Little things, but they'd make all the difference. CKR is clearly young enough to learn and improve- I hope he's smart enough.

Would it be presumptious of me to offer my hand in marriage this early? I like the idea of having two wives, especially during games of Strip Twister.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

It's frustrating to see him jump for so many headers, all the time looking at the defender and not the ball, which gives the referee all the invitation he needs to infer CKR's not going for the ball, and award a foul against him. I'm happy to concede football is nothing like as easy as most of us fans would like to believe, but that's just basic stuff. And whether this is a right or wrong assumption, if you do that, it LOOKS to the watching masses that you're more concerned about getting hurt than getting the ball.

Likewise, getting tackled and then sitting on the ground looking incredulous that you didn't get a free kick- even schoolboy footballers get taught to play to the whistle. That crunching tackle he made at the weekend (while on that mazy run) had the crowd on its feet, principally as it's the first time we've REALLY seen CKR get stuck in- and we loved it. More of that, Colin, and people will be eating out of your hand. You don't have to turn into Norman Hunter, just the odd bone-cruncher, preferably on one of the opposition's more annoying players, that'll do nicely.

Little things, but they'd make all the difference. CKR is clearly young enough to learn and improve- I hope he's smart enough.

That's as good an analysis of CKR's weaknesses as I've seen. It's not about him not being a thoroughly decent young lad. and his family have absolutely every right to feel very proud of his progression in the professional game. I know if I was his dad I'd be dead chuffed. Seriously.

Unfortunately tho, the fans see a lot of players pass through the club, and their analysis is more often than not more insightful than that of the family and coaches, who can lack objectivity in these things. Everybody posting on here, acknowledges CKR is very good indeed with his feet, and just about everybody has commented on the same weaknesses. not sure if the coaches are trying to work on the same weaknesses that the fans have identified. But I'd certainly hope so. It'll serve him far better in the game the long run, than happy-clapping him regardless.

And probably worth adding that nobody, fan nor pressman, should be saying that the Albion's season hinges on his miss when clean through, which the boy was big enough to hold his hands up to. Don't worry about it mate, Jakey missed a similar one earlier in the season. Shit happens. We stay up as a team, or go down as a team.

 

[dcseagull]

And all of your opinions about his attitude are based on what personal experience of him. You experiences and use of the term bling are probably those that certain industries have sold to you. You have never seen Colin wearing any BLING yet you still label him. You don't count but unfortunatley some of those who do are no better

Colin has left a world where his peers kidnap maim and KILL each other from a very young age there are 15 year olds with more money cars and real bling that they have aqquired through voilent or illegal crime. Recently a 17 year old Asian was doused in petrol by a rival gang set alite and killed. These are the people the that the phrase was coined for real thugs, not some media discription of a young so called celebrity

Colin is a major support and mentor back in his own community. Last year he addressed over 500 young black children many from rival gangs in his local area at a youth conference at Walthamstow assembly hall, telling them to pusure their dreams, educate themselfs and to stop the violence.

Check the national stats Waltham Forest has had the highest rise for gun crime in the country. The story about wearing bullet proof vest to school is true Colin actually coaches two kids from that school on a Sunday morning. He vists local schools and training centres, he has just had a framed shirt done for his school thanking them for helping him. He is totally accessable to the members of his local community. How many professional sportsman can you say that about. He fills in at the drop of a hat for any campiagn the club ask him to. These people have no problem with his attitude but you do.

Maybe you know him better than he knows himself. I think not. Tell us what you think of him as a player thats fine. Because as a person the people that care for him already know who he is.

Great post

I didn't know CKR did all that. Fair play to him, whenever I've heard him interviewed he sounds like a good bloke.

I haven't seen CKR since October so I can't comment on how he's playing. All I would say is, I don't really understand why Colin and his Dad (and Tank for that matter) want to read NSC. This is a fan's site - fans have always jumped to conclusions about players, told tall stories, given credence to unsubtaintiated rumours and generally behaved irrationally. I've occasionally shouted "that's rubbish" or thought I could do better but deep down I know that's not true. There's something cathartic about having a shout and a moan and, for a lot people, that's one of the attractions of being a fan. You can escape the rational everyday world, and act irrationally or like a kid i.e We're the best team in the world one week and the worst the next - never ever anything in between.

You're never going to chage fan culture. Hopefully, at games CKR gets more support than he does stick. Appreciation by fans at the game, the respect of his manager and peers in the team
are all CKR should be concerned about. It's really not worth winding yourself up over comments on an internet message board. Hopefully one day CKR will earn a move to a big Premiership Club and, if he or his Dad are getting wound up by a few posts by Brighton fans imagine what it would be like at Newcastle, Liverpool, Sunderland etc? Look at the stick Gary Neville gets from Liverpool fans - how does he react? By ignoring them and playing consistently game after game.

Just one other thing - some of your posts sound like a lightly disguised dig at MM's tactics. I would hate to think that MM got wind of this and CKR suffered as a result. Whilst all your points may well be valid, maybe it's better to keep it in house?

Take care. I really hope this season helps CKR develops a thicker skin and that next season he proves just what a player he is. I'm confident that's going to happen.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Would it be presumptious of me to offer my hand in marriage this early? I like the idea of having two wives, especially during games of Strip Twister.

You fit the criteria of being an Albion fan- I presume you are also rich, good looking and less than 45 (I can ignore the current wife scenario)?

 

[Ray the Otter]

Interesting stuff Debo. I didn't know a lot of that either. Taking all you've said into account I reckon it is safe to assume that Colin's experiences will mean that a few misguided individuals taking cheap pot-shots at him on a messageboard will be like water off a duck's back, I hope so anyway.

 

[Easy 10]

like water off a duck's back

You're obsessed with amphibious creatures.

 

[Ray the Otter]

You fit the criteria of being an Albion fan- I presume you are also rich, good looking and less than 45 (I can ignore the current wife scenario)?

Boing! I pass two out of your three criteria, will that do?

 

[Ray the Otter]

You're obsessed with amphibious creatures.

Yes, yes I am.

 

[Easy 10]

Yes, yes I am.

In fact I'd go as far as saying you are TURTLEY obsessed.





Ooh that was POOR.
Sorry.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Boing! I pass two out of your three criteria, will that do?

mere details, I may be able to work with it

 

[Ray the Otter]

mere details, I may be able to work with it

Excellent, at least you won't spurn me when I take you out for a slap-up down The Guildbourne Grill and a game of Fair Dodge Home on our first date then.

My laptop must be getting as steamed up as I am as it keeps shutting down, something about the driver?? If you don't here from me for a while it won't be because I've gone to knock one out, although I might use the spare time in that fashion anyway, saves turning the heating back on xx

PS; Easy, that may have been poor but it was very good

 

[Easy 10]

Thanks Ray.
I'll leave it now though. I'm beginning to feel like a right gooseberry on this thread.

 

[Ray the Otter]

Thanks Ray.
I'll leave it now though. I'm beginning to feel like a right gooseberry on this thread.

Don't leave on our account Easy, you sound like the kind of man who would be up for being the board spinner for a game of Strip Twister, right hand pink and all that.

 

[maffew]

Great post

I didn't know CKR did all that. Fair play to him, whenever I've heard him interviewed he sounds like a good bloke.

I haven't seen CKR since October so I can't comment on how he's playing. All I would say is, I don't really understand why Colin and his Dad (and Tank for that matter) want to read NSC. This is a fan's site - fans have always jumped to conclusions about players, told tall stories, given credence to unsubtaintiated rumours and generally behaved irrationally. I've occasionally shouted "that's rubbish" or thought I could do better but deep down I know that's not true. There's something cathartic about having a shout and a moan and, for a lot people, that's one of the attractions of being a fan. You can escape the rational everyday world, and act irrationally or like a kid i.e We're the best team in the world one week and the worst the next - never ever anything in between.

You're never going to chage fan culture. Hopefully, at games CKR gets more support than he does stick. Appreciation by fans at the game, the respect of his manager and peers in the team
are all CKR should be concerned about. It's really not worth winding yourself up over comments on an internet message board. Hopefully one day CKR will earn a move to a big Premiership Club and, if he or his Dad are getting wound up by a few posts by Brighton fans imagine what it would be like at Newcastle, Liverpool, Sunderland etc? Look at the stick Gary Neville gets from Liverpool fans - how does he react? By ignoring them and playing consistently game after game.

Just one other thing - some of your posts sound like a lightly disguised dig at MM's tactics. I would hate to think that MM got wind of this and CKR suffered as a result. Whilst all your points may well be valid, maybe it's better to keep it in house?

Take care. I really hope this season helps CKR develops a thicker skin and that next season he proves just what a player he is. I'm confident that's going to happen.