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[Football] The Brighton Kop
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Monkey Man
Your support is not that great
Got talking to a bloke last week at a kids' match. I asked him which team he supported. "Liverpool".
"Oh yeah, I should have guessed from your accent," I said. (He was talking in broad Sussex/Home Counties.)
"Well, I picked my team when I was six, and you've got to stick with your decision, haven't you?" he replied.
Why, exactly? When you have absolutely no connection to the city or its traditions and just catch the odd game on Sky?
I also enjoy chats with people who, after they tell you they support Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea etc, assure you that they started following them "before they were good". But funny that you don't see kids today randomly latching on to Walsall, Gillingham or Wycombe Wanderers.
Being a football supporter makes very little logical sense most of the time. But the best argument I can put forward is being part of something that brings a community together, and you can only get that by supporting your local club, whatever league they play in.
"Oh yeah, I should have guessed from your accent," I said. (He was talking in broad Sussex/Home Counties.)
"Well, I picked my team when I was six, and you've got to stick with your decision, haven't you?" he replied.
Why, exactly? When you have absolutely no connection to the city or its traditions and just catch the odd game on Sky?
I also enjoy chats with people who, after they tell you they support Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea etc, assure you that they started following them "before they were good". But funny that you don't see kids today randomly latching on to Walsall, Gillingham or Wycombe Wanderers.
Being a football supporter makes very little logical sense most of the time. But the best argument I can put forward is being part of something that brings a community together, and you can only get that by supporting your local club, whatever league they play in.
Just watched it. To be honest, I have no problem with it at all.
Sure, I'd rather local people support their local team, but many people choose their team for a few good reasons - family connections; sheer bloody-mindedness; be expatriate; lack of a local team.
We have to remember that we lost a generation of fans here when we were at Gillingham and then Withdean. People picked a club then and many picked Liverpool.
Around the world there are groups of Seagulls. Hell, there was even a Forza Seagulls group a few years back and I remember NSC welcoming them.
At the end of the day, this group are trying to do something good - community, friendship etc. I have no problem. Hopefully the second result they always look for is the Brighton result. And, over time, this group will diminish and be replaced by Blue and White as we continue to build our place in the footballing fabric of society.
Sure, I'd rather local people support their local team, but many people choose their team for a few good reasons - family connections; sheer bloody-mindedness; be expatriate; lack of a local team.
We have to remember that we lost a generation of fans here when we were at Gillingham and then Withdean. People picked a club then and many picked Liverpool.
Around the world there are groups of Seagulls. Hell, there was even a Forza Seagulls group a few years back and I remember NSC welcoming them.
At the end of the day, this group are trying to do something good - community, friendship etc. I have no problem. Hopefully the second result they always look for is the Brighton result. And, over time, this group will diminish and be replaced by Blue and White as we continue to build our place in the footballing fabric of society.
Postman Pat
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Just to play devil's advocate for a bit, so that means anyone who has never been to see an England game live can have an emotional attachment to watching them with a group of mates in the pub?
Are those Indian guys that watched our game against Everton not allowed to be BHAFC fans?
It was a ****ing odd little film. Reminded of That Peter Kay Thing. Made me feel a bit melancholy. They do that ritual stuff to stroll down to the K&Q! Paaahhhaha. One of them even says something like " I love it when you walk there and yuo start to see pockets of fans appearing". You what?
One said something like "You don't have to be from a place or to have even visitied it to feel affiliated with it". Uhm Yes, you do. Utterly bizarre. I've not been into the pub for about 8 years. It's a shitty griefhole.
One said something like "You don't have to be from a place or to have even visitied it to feel affiliated with it". Uhm Yes, you do. Utterly bizarre. I've not been into the pub for about 8 years. It's a shitty griefhole.
DarrenFreemansPerm
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Personally I feel that’s a different situation, but I do take your point. Choosing a national team to support isn’t a choice, if your English you support England, but from my own point of view people struggle to have the same connection with their national team as they do with their ‘local’ team. With regards to the fans in India, they are more than welcome to support the Albion, but I’d hope that they also have a local team that they go and support too. My point being is that football isn’t a tv show, sure support who you like, but there is simply no way a resident of Brighton whom supports Liverpool, but has never been north of Watford, will never have the same emotional connection with their chosen club as a Brighton (or any club) fan that actually attends games. You can’t mirror the emotions of joy or despair, of greatness or failure from watching a tv screen. The best thing about supporting a team is being there, feeling a part of it, believing your contributing with your singing, that’s irreplaceable to me. Just my opinion though.
RandyWanger
Je suis rôti de boeuf
I thought it was a comedy sketch to begin with. ****ing cringe.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
[MENTION=17389]DarrenFreemansPerm[/MENTION] has summed it up very well. You don't really "choose" to support England. If you're english, they're foisted on you. And I certainly do support England (on TV - I've only seen them 3 or 4 times at Wembley). Its my country after all, and I'd love them to be successful. 1990 and 1996 was epic. But I don't feel the same kind of attachment with England as I do with the Albion, never could.
As for those Indian guys, they don't care as much about the Albion as we do, because they've never had the emotional investment, or experienced the history, or been on the journey. I'd wager that they'd never even heard of us till August when we rocked up in the Prem. Someone gave them some shirts and flags and plonked them in front of a telly to watch one of our games - that's the extend of their Albion experience. Hope they enjoyed it, but I wouldn't class them as being fans.
stugbhafc1
Stuie G
There are loads of these types of "fans" about who "support" the top clubs absolute wastemen
Postman Pat
Well-known member
Thanks for the responses, and I agree on the whole, nothing will ever top being in the stadium when we beat Wigan and made it to the prem and running onto the pitch with my son, or the other promotions witnessed in person, same as the lows of the losses in play-off games Vs Palace, Wednesday and Notts County.
However some of my favourite footballing moments have been on the TV watching England with mates, ripping Germany apart 5-1 and Beckham's free-kick vs Greece to name a couple. Enjoying moments like that with like-minded individuals can still have an amazing feeling.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Agreed, I've had some truly memorable (and desolate) experiences watching England on the TV too. But then I'm english, so I have a proper reason for following them. I have a genuine emotional investment in England, its not chosen, contrived or manufactured. Its in my BLOOD !
Weststander
Well-known member
This.
An element of control freakery of how dare others living in Sussex follow another club, and/or follow them by gathering not in stadia.
Caveman
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Lovely peice, put together well.
However, anyone who has supported the Albion from the lower leagues all know he kids at school who weren’t Brighton fans but now are ST holders etc.
Let’s put it down to being glory hunters, one good thing is seeing more and more Brighton fans of a young age. Something we had in the past not seen.
TWOCHOICEStom
Well-known member
I know one of the guys in this group. He's a top man.
We just have to accept that this is the product of us being shit for so many years. Kids now will grow up and support the albion. Kids when I was at school all supported Liverpool, Man United and Chelsea. Simple as that.
We just have to accept that this is the product of us being shit for so many years. Kids now will grow up and support the albion. Kids when I was at school all supported Liverpool, Man United and Chelsea. Simple as that.
Nixonator
Well-known member
Comments where?
I only had a quick browse of the Youtube comments and they were already taking an absolute GRILLING from all and sundry, so I didn't feel it necessary to rub salt in a wound.
I must admit that's my view as well; why do some people get so worked up over what teams other people support? It's not just football though: beer, comedy, music, you say what you like and someone else will hate you for it. Yes they are sad tossers, but so what? Anyway, we don't need or want any more fans - it's hard enough getting tickets at the moment as it is.
(Having said that if Liverpool win on Saturday and any southern-born Liverpool fan celebrates in front of me .... well I shall give them a stern talking-to.)
