[Politics] The 2024 US Election - *MATCH DAY*

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Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 173 41.9%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 217 52.5%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%

  • Total voters
    413
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lasvegan

Well-known member
Jan 30, 2009
2,199
Sin City
Yet you believe Trump when he says:
  • He won the 2020 election (that’s mainstream Republican thinking now)
  • or when he says the US are paying ‘close to 100% of NATO
  • or when he said “all legal scholars want Roe v Wade overturned”
  • or when he said Biden was a Manchurian candidate
  • or that the FBI are lying about the crime stats to help the Democrats

The list of Trump lies and falsehoods go into the 1,000s. They can’t all be listed here but they can all be fact checked.

With such a track record of distorting truths, embellishment and downright falsehoods, I find it ironic that someone should use the criteria of ‘honesty’ to judge where best to place their political allegiance.
Have you any idea of her policies that you agree with? List them. Nobody else has.

and while you’re at it, list the 1,000’s of falsehoods. Get back to me in a couple of months…
 






















Jul 20, 2003
20,666
I am absolutely fine having a chat with people who have a different opinion on matters.

I am, on occasion, delighted to be educated and swayed in my view.

A cogent argument, delivered by someone of measured thought, is a joy to ponder.

There is a true delight in unshackling a paradigm.


...and there is 'Ignore'
 


lasvegan

Well-known member
Jan 30, 2009
2,199
Sin City
I am absolutely fine having a chat with people who have a different opinion on matters.

I am, on occasion, delighted to be educated and swayed in my view.

A cogent argument, delivered by someone of measured thought, is a joy to ponder.

There is a true delight in unshackling a paradigm.


...and there is 'Ignore'
So, what is your difference in opinion?
 


Zeberdi

“Vorsprung durch Technik”
NSC Patron
Oct 20, 2022
6,903
Have you any idea of her policies that you agree with? List them. Nobody else has.

and while you’re at it, list the 1,000’s of falsehoods. Get back to me in a couple of months…

Pretty much what Biden has apart from:
  • more liberal on abortion rights,
  • more vocal support for Palestinians than Biden (although still supportive of Israel) ,
  • similar to Biden on Climate Change but opposes fracking and unlike Biden, a strong supporter of the Green New Deal …..
  • much tougher on environmental regulations and opposes the Us-Mexico-Canada Agreement on environmental grounds
  • Advocates plans for student debt relief
  • Very pro-regulation of A1 and wanting strong government oversight
  • Very pro-animal welfare - likely to push for tougher regulations in agricultural livestock.
All of which I wholeheartedly agree with

20 second google will find the platform that the Dems are campaigning on - they are not going to spend a week preaching to the converted at the Convention - nor before Harris had even been formally nominated the Presidential Candidate.



Night night (again 😴)

Now you LIST TRUMP’S - THIS ISN’T A ONE WAY STREET as much as that might convenience you.
 




lasvegan

Well-known member
Jan 30, 2009
2,199
Sin City
Pretty much what Biden has apart from:
  • more liberal on abortion rights, Abortion rights have gone back to the states, where they should be.
  • more vocal support for Palestinians than Biden (although still supportive of Israel) , Fence? Palestinians want to annihilate Israel
  • similar to Biden on Climate Change but opposes fracking and unlike Biden, a strong supporter of the Green New Deal …..The green new deal is idiotic. How do you think this will affect the economy?
  • much tougher on environmental regulations and opposes the Us-Mexico-Canada Agreement on environmental grounds what is this? Huh?
  • Advocates plans for student debt relief. Tax payers paying for elitists education, although they couldn’t afford to pay for their own kids education
  • Very pro-regulation of A1 and wanting strong government oversight. No idea what A1 is . Please explain
  • Very pro-animal welfare - likely to push for tougher regulations in agricultural livestock. Huh?
All of which I wholeheartedly agree with

20 second google will find the platform that the Dems are campaigning on - they are not going to spend a week preaching to the converted at the Convention - nor before Harris had even been formally nominated the Presidential Candidate.



Night night (again 😴)

Now you LIST TRUMP’S - THIS ISN’T A ONE WAY STREET as much as that might convenience you.

Answers in your post. I thought you went to bed?
 


marlowe

Well-known member
Dec 13, 2015
4,289
Edit. I realised too late that it was fake and someones now quoted my post before I had a chance to delete it. My only defence is it's exactly the kind of thing Trump would say so I just accepted it at face value. But this one really was FAKE NEWS.
 
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AZ Gull

@SeagullsAcademy @seagullsacademy.bsky.social
Oct 14, 2003
13,091
Chandler, AZ
He conveniently waits until OJ is dead before making that claim.

Also I don't think OJ would have been very happy by Trump's portrayal of him expressing gratitude to a white person for playing ball with him. It's an extremely racist and demeaning portrayal, not only of OJ but of black people in general.

But of course Trump can't see that. He thinks that by adding that further embellishment to his lie about playing ball with OJ that he is endearing himself to black voters, but all he is doing is exposing his sense of superiority over them, but not just his own personal superiority but his sense of white people's superiority over black people. It's extremely offensive.

His lack of awareness is astounding. It's even worse than his "black jobs" comment. But it's all good, as long as he keeps on digging.
It isn't real @marlowe
 






BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,194
Answers in your post. I thought you went to bed?
I got the impression earlier in the thread that you were pro trump because he was better that Biden. Now that an improved opponent is in the race it appears you are still pro trump?

I still can't fathom why someone would support such an immoral lying charlatan. What is it you like about him?
 




Zeberdi

“Vorsprung durch Technik”
NSC Patron
Oct 20, 2022
6,903
Answers in your post. I thought you went to bed?
I am posting my reply to you yet again because you have completely bastardised one of my posts when quoting me above and it now looks like I actually wrote the post you quoted as being by me.

I have asked you before - STOP heavily editing my posts when you quote them please - it is lazy, disingenuous and misleading and very annoying. People do that as a joke sometimes by just changing the odd word but when they do, they make it clear which is the edited part and which isn’t by highlighting it in bold.


This is your post I replied to and my original answer to it

Have you any idea of her policies that you agree with? List them. Nobody else has.

Pretty much what Biden has apart from:
  • more liberal on abortion rights,
  • more vocal support for Palestinians than Biden (although still supportive of Israel) ,
  • similar to Biden on Climate Change but opposes fracking and unlike Biden, a strong supporter of the Green New Deal …..
  • much tougher on environmental regulations and opposes the Us-Mexico-Canada Agreement on environmental grounds
  • Advocates plans for student debt relief
  • Very pro-regulation of A1 and wanting strong government oversight
  • Very pro-animal welfare - likely to push for tougher regulations in agricultural livestock.
All of which I wholeheartedly agree with

20 second google will find the platform that the Dems are campaigning on - they are not going to spend a week preaching to the converted at the Convention - nor before Harris had even been formally nominated the Presidential Candidate.

Aplogies to everyone else who’s had to now read all that twice.
 
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bhafc99

Well-known member
Oct 14, 2003
7,455
Dubai
I predict Trump will be in jail within a year if he loses this one.

It’s remarkable how quickly support and protection melt away when you lose and look weak.
Sadly it’s unlikely with the likes of Aileen Cannon ‘judging’ cases. It’s a messed up system when judges get chosen and appointed by politicians for their political bias.
 


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