[Politics] The 2024 US Election - *MATCH DAY*

[Zeberdi]

OK, I fact checked you and the data I got was wrong, it was the first thing I questioned. I didn't go any further as the premise that Trump was somehow secretly working for the Russians is and was bullshit and that was the central push of the investigation. As I said 2 FBI lawyers were convicted for lying, the whole premise was a far fetched fantasy. As for others convicted if you throw out a net your going to catch crooks in Washington.


The whole investigation was an attempt to smear, hamper and unseat an elected president.

You don’t need to google for “data” on Wiki to know that Rosenstein was appointed by Trump, just a reasonable interest in following American politics on MSM as it happens. Perhaps you’s be a little more guarded in your support for Trump regaining the WH if you were more familiar with his behaviour as POTUS in his first term.

It still doesn’t address the original point being made that it was Rosenstein, a Trump appointed acting Attorney General who appointed Special Counsel to investigate Trump. So arguing that the investigation itself was an “attempt to smear Trump” is fallacious. Why would Trump falsely claim a report that set out to smear him, “exonerated him” if he did not see the Meuller Report as the outcome to a genuine investigation?

A simple answer is that he like me is right of centre and he is the one on the ticket.

So are you an American citizen then?

If not, why would Trump being on the ticket make any difference to where you are on the political spectrum?

 

[Albion my Albion]

It still doesn’t address the original point being made that it was Rosenstein, a Trump appointed acting Attorney General who appointed Special Counsel to investigate Trump. So arguing that the investigation itself was an “attempt to smear Trump” is fallacious. Why would Trump falsely claim a report that set out to smear him, “exonerated him” if he did not see the Meuller Report as the outcome to a genuine investigation?

Truth is obviously not important to Trump supporters. Trump makes up so many lies they just ignore it and keep on supporting him no matter what he says. Even if he loses he will claim the election was stolen.

 

[rogersix]

Emotionally invested? GFY

you're so needy, desperate to believe

 

[Zeberdi]

Trump makes yet another ‘intelligible’ rant - this time he has Google in the crosshairs

 

[US Seagull]

Trump makes yet another ‘intelligible’ rant - this time he has Google in the crosshairs

I think it is really beneficial to actually have what he said transcribed and then read it instead of listening to it. When you do that, it's absolutely staggering that anybody could think that he's a fully functional human being.

 

[Motogull]

It looks like the orange dickhead is losing weight to me.

 

[Triggaaar]

I didn't go any further as the premise that Trump was somehow secretly working for the Russians is and was bullshit

Something we agree on at last. Trump helping the Russians is no secret.

 

[medwayseagull reborn]

It looks like the orange dickhead is losing weight to me.

Thats what happens when you have your brain removed.

 

[sparkie]

It looks like the orange dickhead is losing weight to me.

Maybe he can lose so much that he actually disappears into nothing.

 

[Bodian]

OK, I fact checked you and the data I got was wrong, it was the first thing I questioned. I didn't go any further as the premise that Trump was somehow secretly working for the Russians is and was bullshit and that was the central push of the investigation. As I said 2 FBI lawyers were convicted for lying, the whole premise was a far fetched fantasy. As for others convicted if you throw out a net your going to catch crooks in Washington.


The whole investigation was an attempt to smear, hamper and unseat an elected president.

But you didn't 'fact check' did you.

You put your 'facts' in a quote. That is - you made it look as though you were quoting an authoritative source.

What you put was:

"Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, in his role as Acting Attorney General for matters related to the campaign due to the recusal of Attorney General Jeff Sessions, appointed Mueller, a former Director of the FBI, to serve as Special Counsel..

Rod Rosenstein was appointed as the Deputy Attorney General by President Barack Obama on April 26, 2015."

Now - the first sentence appears word-for-word in the Mueller investigation wikipedia page - below https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muell...ole as Acting,Justice (DOJ) with authority to

But your second sentence, which was the one you were using to accuse @Curious Orange of posting things that were untrue cannot be found anywhere on google. https://www.google.com/search?q="Ro...INDg2MWowajSoAgCwAgA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

It certainly does not run on from the first sentence in the same quote as you make out.

So, unless you can provide the actual source of this quote that you say you obtained when you 'fact-checked', the only conclusion we can really reach is that you actually made that part of the so-called quote up to suit your own purposes.

That is appalling.

By the way, have you apologised to @Curious Orange for accusing him of posting untrue statements of facts? No, I can't see that you have.

 

[Zeberdi]

But you didn't 'fact check' did you.

You put your 'facts' in a quote. That is - you made it look as though you were quoting an authoritative source.

What you put was:

"Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, in his role as Acting Attorney General for matters related to the campaign due to the recusal of Attorney General Jeff Sessions, appointed Mueller, a former Director of the FBI, to serve as Special Counsel..

Rod Rosenstein was appointed as the Deputy Attorney General by President Barack Obama on April 26, 2015."

Now - the first sentence appears word-for-word in the Mueller investigation wikipedia page - below https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mueller_special_counsel_investigation#:~:text=Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, in his role as Acting,Justice (DOJ) with authority to

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But your second sentence, which was the one you were using to accuse @Curious Orange of posting things that were untrue cannot be found anywhere on google. https://www.google.com/search?q="Rod+Rosenstein+was+appointed+as+the+Deputy+Attorney+General+by+President+Barack+Obama+on+April+26,+2015."&rlz=1C1ONGR_en-GBGB1085GB1085&oq="Rod+Rosenstein+was+appointed+as+the+Deputy+Attorney+General+by+President+Barack+Obama+on+April+26,+2015."&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQRRhA0gEINDg2MWowajSoAgCwAgA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

It certainly does not run on from the first sentence in the same quote as you make out.

So, unless you can provide the actual source of this quote that you say you obtained when you 'fact-checked', the only conclusion we can really reach is that you actually made that part of the so-called quote up to suit your own purposes.

That is appalling.

By the way, have you apologised to @Curious Orange for accusing him of posting untrue statements of facts? No, I can't see that you have.

Crawley Dingo has admitted to being wrong in stating Rosenstein was appointed by Obama as Deputy AG as both CO and I pointed out above your original post - and yes, I also gathered that either he was making quotes up, misplaced quotation marks on his post, or quoted unreliable sources. However, perhaps it’s time to move on - you just know there isn’t an apology forthcoming and your very excellent forensic analysis of CD’s posts are going to fall on deaf ears sadly.

 

[Peteinblack]

Thats what happens when you have your brain removed.

With a brain as small as his, the weight loss would surely be miniscule?

 

[Bodian]

Crawley Dingo has admitted to being wrong in stating Rosenstein was appointed by Obama as Deputy AG as both CO and I pointed out above your original post - and yes, I also gathered that either he was making quotes up, misplaced quotation marks on his post, or quoted unreliable sources. However, perhaps it’s time to move on - you just know there isn’t an apology forthcoming and your very excellent forensic analysis of CD’s posts are going to fall on deaf ears sadly.

Yes - fair enough. But my job often involves analysing statements and seeking the truth - and so making up quotes annoys me intensely. And completely devalues anything else that person has to say.

Mistakes and misunderstandings are fair enough. Fabrication is not.

 

[Pretty Plnk Fairy]

Mistakes and misunderstandings are fair enough. Fabrication is not.

Leave faberication to women as they are better at sowing on buttons as its there job along with cooking and ironying

Regards

DF

 

[Greg Bobkin]

OK, I fact checked you and the data I got was wrong, it was the first thing I questioned. I didn't go any further as the premise that Trump was somehow secretly working for the Russians is and was bullshit and that was the central push of the investigation. As I said 2 FBI lawyers were convicted for lying, the whole premise was a far fetched fantasy. As for others convicted if you throw out a net your going to catch crooks in Washington.


The whole investigation was an attempt to smear, hamper and unseat an elected president.

'... the data I got was wrong...'

No, YOU were wrong. Talking shite like your mate Donald

 

[US Seagull]

It looks like the orange dickhead is losing weight to me.

Ozempic

 

[US Seagull]

Something we agree on at last. Trump helping the Russians is no secret.

Yesterday at a rally he congratulated Putin on the great deal he struck with the prison exchange

 

[Triggaaar]

Yesterday at a rally he congratulated Putin on the great deal he struck with the prison exchange

Presumably just trying to suggest he'd have got the American prisoners back for free, and Biden was completely rinsed by Putin. Transparent and pathetic.

 

[BN41Albion]

A simple answer is that he like me is right of centre and he is the one on the ticket.

What's the more detailed answer then? Because anyone normal in the head but politically right of centre still wouldn't dream of backing/openly defending Trump the way you arw - only the absolute morons of society still believe a word that comes out of that disgusting excuse of a human being's mouth by now

 

[US Seagull]

Presumably just trying to suggest he'd have got the American prisoners back for free, and Biden was completely rinsed by Putin. Transparent and pathetic.

He had previously claimed that the American prisoners would be immediately released by Putin if Trump was elected. Released even before he took office. Trump had claimed Putin would do that for him.