Seagull58
In the Algarve
President's son.
The laptop exists. Rudi Guliani got his hands on it and got a Russian techie involved. Even after that, there is no evidence connecting Joe Biden to any wrongdoing.
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[Politics] The 2024 US Election - *MATCH DAY*
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The laptop exists. Rudi Guliani got his hands on it and got a Russian techie involved. Even after that, there is no evidence connecting Joe Biden to any wrongdoing.
And yet some think Biden is worse.I agree with you.
And then I think...what sort of life do the people have that actually want Trump to be their leader? What issues do they have? What social circles do they keep? Are they totally angry all the time?
Biden may be a gaff-prone father of a dodgy son, and is a needlessly weak candidate when there must be so much (well, some) younger talent in the Democrat ranks.
But compared with Trump . . . . . he is much the preferable.
I've never watched it either.
I assume, from what I have read from the Trump 'supporters' on here is they are turning a blind eye* to Trump's 'shortcomings' because they think that if Biden were to become president (forgetting that he is, er, president because they think Trump won the last election like he keeps saying he did) the nation would be thrown into communistic catholic chaos.I agree with you
And then I think...what sort of life do the people have that actually want Trump to be their leader? What issues do they have? What social circles do they keep? Are they totally angry all the time?
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Greg Bobkin
Silver Seagull
- May 22, 2012
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What? Both 'sides' slag each other off in equal measure: 'Sleepy/Creepy/Paedo Joe', etc etc
BadFish
Huge Member
- Oct 19, 2003
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And here you have it, the amount you have to look the other way and ignore what is in front of you to support trump.
Danson sets out a charge sheet of 11 unpleasant behaviours. CD ignores ten of them and then ignores the evidence of the last one while then shifting the focus to Biden (and Hilary).
Textbook.
None so blind as those that won't see.
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Brightonfan1983
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Rather than polls of the future, what about the voting just gone? In Michigan, the Felony Factory won with 68%. In South Carolina, he won with 60%. Looks pretty resounding.
Except. 30% of republicans voted for someone else in Michigan., 40% in SC. Here, at least a third of 'his base' don't want him (Biden got north of 95% in his last one).
That doesn't mean those no votes will go to Biden in the general election, probably not, but some will, and I'd be willing to bet a lot will abstain.
Maybe I'm terribly optimistic and/or naive, but I can't believe it'll happen all over again. They're a funny bunch, those Americans.
US Seagull
Well-known member
Exactly this. Trump is as close to being an incumbent without actually being an incumbent. So getting only ~60% of the vote is, quite frankly, sad.
Looks like he has successfully got some of his cases pushed back till after the election. When he can scrap them (if he wins).
www.theguardian.com
Supreme Court hands Trump a gift
The US supreme court announced Wednesday evening that it will consider Trump’s claim of presidential immunity
www.theguardian.com
- Nov 11, 2009
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You're right.I’m not taking opinion polls too seriously at this stage - we are still 9 months out from the election. There is also a possibly of up to a 6% margin of error in polling ( as discussed up thread). What State the polls were carried out in can also affect the outcome.
Some of the latest polls show mixed result:
A recent poll has Biden ahead of support from young voters:
Biden tops Trump by 4 points in new survey of young voters
President Biden is narrowly leading former President Trump by 4 points in a new survey of young voters — a key demographic Biden carried in 2020. The Axios-Generation Lab survey of voters under 35 …thehill.com
And a yougov poll has Trump and Biden both on 44% for example.
I don’t think anything can be read into polling results at this stage other than this will be a very tight election - maybe even more so than 2016.
President: general election Polls
The latest political polls and polling averages from FiveThirtyEight.projects.fivethirtyeight.com
And in the republican primaries Trump is both consistently performing worse than polling and the fact Hayley is still taking about a 1/3 of votes, shows there's still a reasonable chunk of republicans who don't want him.
In 2020 there was a considerable amount of republicans who saw the dangers of Trump and voted Biden to stop him.
Is there really many if any, since the GE 2020 and all that happened since with election denial, insurrection, stealing documents, that have had an epiphany and will now vote Trump after all?
Badger Boy
Mr Badger
- Jan 28, 2016
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That's the value of appointing 3 Supreme Court judges who would prefer not to have to publically stand against him. They all know full well that he should not be considered immune from prosecution and if these cases were against a Democrat they'd have ruled by now. It's shameful but it's the state of "democracy" in the US currently and this is the biggest issue - the Supreme Court is a decades long problem. A President will come and go (or that used to be the case, rather than the same person wanting to lose for a third election in a row) but the Supreme Court appointees can shape and re-shape the legal landscape of the country for generations.Looks like he has successfully got some of his cases pushed back till after the election. When he can scrap them (if he wins).
Supreme Court hands Trump a gift
The US supreme court announced Wednesday evening that it will consider Trump’s claim of presidential immunity
nicko31
Well-known member
If Democrats stay at home fascism will prevail
Crawley Dingo
Political thread tourist.
- Mar 31, 2022
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Yeah not a bigot.
Yeah not a single one (in last 3 days)
Black leaders, DNC blast Trump for ‘racist’ comments
Black leaders are condemning former President Trump’s recent comments about Black voters as “racist.” Speaking at the Black Conservative Federation (BCF) annual gala in South Carolina on Friday, Tr…thehill.com
Do you even read the links you post.
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“And a lot of people said that’s why the Black people like me, because they have been hurt so badly and discriminated against, and they actually viewed me as I’m being discriminated against. It’s been pretty amazing, but possibly, maybe, there’s something there.”
The former president added that Black Americans also “embraced” his mug shot and that he knows Black people because they built his buildings.
His comments quickly drew outrage from the NAACP. "
Whats racist? Its just another DNC grift by self appointed black leaders.
Crawley Dingo
Political thread tourist.
- Mar 31, 2022
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None of that is relevant yes he's rude back.
America is a 'can do' country.
If you can rig the game, thwart decency, laws, and even the constitution because you have the power to do so, and want to do so, you 'can do' so.
Silver back? Wooly back? Yes, we have no bananas? Rude boy? Two-tone tonic strides?
None of that is relevant either. But I like it.
- Nov 11, 2009
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Of course I read it and that's why I posted it.
Trump is saying Black people like him, because he is persecuted and in trouble with the law and equates that to black people.
And the NAACP deem his comments and equivalence to be racist and I totally agree with them.
And here you are, probably white?, clearly a fascist apologist in a whole world of rabbit hole delusion and conspiracy theory quackery, claiming you're actually the moral authority on what is racism towards the black Community over the NAACP?
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