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[Albion] that De Zerbi interview









DavidinSouthampton

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All businesses have models and strategy but there are times you must delve away from that. Losing our two biggest assets in the space of 2 months with no ready made replacements currently employed, is bad planning and has left us short. We are now relying on the apprentices to do the seasoned professionals work to the same level. And we’re surprised when they can’t?
Personally I’m quite happy with what the apprentices are doing most of the time. Considering our injuries position we dominated in the second half last night with people like Buonanotte contributing significantly.
 


Nobby

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Sep 29, 2007
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Reflecting on all this after a nights sleep

We have an absolutely dreadful injury list. And not the bit part players from last season. Three of the best.
So there will obviously be frustration at how it’s going and we are really looking weak in depth now. It’s where we are.
RDZ’s comments about the youth policy are either just reminding the media or a dig at the club. Some will take it as a dig at the club.
But it is the public criticism of Baleba that is a problem for me. A young 19 yr old player who we paid a lot of money for (presumably signed off by RDZ).
Poor management isn’t it? One minute saying he’s going to be a great player the next saying he’s not good enough. And even if it’s - he’s not good enough yet, surely it will knock the confidence of the kid. Also he’s been played in a couple of different positions too.
And it’s not a particularly good recruitment position either, with regard to young players choosing which club to move to.
The manager will play me if he thinks I’m good enough - but I’m a bit worried he’s going to slag me off to all and sundry if I make a few mistakes.

Please Roberto, don’t turn into Gus Poyet
 


Frankie

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May 23, 2016
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Baleba was asked to do a job he's still learning to do for goodness sake he's still a teenager,RDZ demands so much from these new young players it's just part of his learning curve,some comments about him are just utterly ridiculous,of course RDZ is hacked off,so would i be if I went to work with half a tool kit,the Buonanotte comments from just last month were of the same ilk yet when he came on last night he completely changed the game in our favour,be patient and support the youngsters,JPVH is a perfect example of game by game improvement to a point where he's one of the first names on the team sheet.
 




HalfaSeatOn

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He’s an ambitious manager and I’m sure he would love to ply his trade with a squad full of 28 year olds at their peak. That’s what good probably looks like for him but ‘Brighton are not a big team’. Surely not if he’ll get that big team call but when. Enjoy while it lasts.
 




Flounce

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An awful lot being made about this. It's a gentle reminder to the media and the club that we need some experience. That's all.
Airing your negative thoughts/criticisms/moans to the media is all a bit Poyet to me. Most fans gave him plenty of leeway too, calling those who didn’t like it “needy” until it all went pear shaped. Palace brings out the worst in our managers post match it seems :wink:
 
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TWOCHOICEStom

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Sep 22, 2007
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Airing your thoughts/criticisms/moans to the media is all a bit Poyet to me. Most fans gave him plenty of leeway too, calling those who didn’t like it “needy” until it all went pear shaped. Palace brings out the worst in our managers post match it seems :wink:
2nd to last game before Christmas. Conceded through naiivity, the experience off the bench made all the difference. Of course he's going to get a little reminder in. I'm fine with it.
 


Flounce

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2nd to last game before Christmas. Conceded through naiivity, the experience off the bench made all the difference. Of course he's going to get a little reminder in. I'm fine with it.
You really think Bloom needs his manager to nudge him in a post match interview? I doubt it went down well personally and we have been down a similar route before :shrug:
 






keaton

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Nov 18, 2004
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I love RDZ but his constant ‘apparent digs’ at the club policy is starting to wear a little thin, as is the constant reference that we ‘are not a big club’

I think he needs to focus on the players he has and trust in Mr Bloom and his ‘policys’

If he doesn’t like it then perhaps BHAFC isn’t the right club for RDZ. This stinks of Poyet and we know what happened there.

In Bloom I trust.
What " constant digs"? I'm not sure this even is a dig but I've heard no others or anyone mentioning them
 


Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011
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An awful lot being made about this. It's a gentle reminder to the media and the club that we need some experience. That's all.
THIS!

Sky decided to do a reaction piece to his comments, to fill in some airtime when there was precious little else to discuss.

As Glenn said, any discussions on this ,will already have been had behind closed doors.
If Tony and Barber have said No to De Zerbi, he would have made more of a big deal about it.
 


keaton

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Nov 18, 2004
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All businesses have models and strategy but there are times you must delve away from that. Losing our two biggest assets in the space of 2 months with no ready made replacements currently employed, is bad planning and has left us short. We are now relying on the apprentices to do the seasoned professionals work to the same level. And we’re surprised when they can’t?
I think we had plans but without unlimited funds it's impossible to mitigate for everything. In the last 18 months we've lost Bissouma, MacAllister, Caicedo and Mwepu. We also lost Moder to a massive injury. That's an awful lot to mitigate. man city can offer unlimited wages and fees, poach players from other clubs and offer trophies. And yet have no-one to cover Rodri and Halland when injured. Chelsea and Man City have spent billions and still hardly any decent CMs and no strikers between them. Spurs have no real cover for Son or Madison or their centre backs
 




tedebear

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But it is the public criticism of Baleba that is a problem for me. A young 19 yr old player who we paid a lot of money for (presumably signed off by RDZ).
Poor management isn’t it? One minute saying he’s going to be a great player the next saying he’s not good enough. And even if it’s - he’s not good enough yet, surely it will knock the confidence of the kid. Also he’s been played in a couple of different positions too.
And it’s not a particularly good recruitment position either, with regard to young players choosing which club to move to.
The manager will play me if he thinks I’m good enough - but I’m a bit worried he’s going to slag me off to all and sundry if I make a few mistakes.

Please Roberto, don’t turn into Gus Poyet

I agree, his comments on Baleba made my heart drop. I can't see how we can blame the language barrier on that, I thought that was undermining and unprofessional to speak about players not being good enough. Strange times indeed...
 


mejonaNO12 aka riskit

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Dec 4, 2003
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If English is your first language you would probably phrase as "we accept that in actively trying to play young players we are asking a lot of them and mistakes can happen. Ideally they would be given more time"

When English isn't your first language you have learnt it ridiculously quick, you are going to use wordings/phrasing that is likely to be torn to bits or be used to create a story.
 


Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011
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You really think Bloom needs his manager to nudge him in a post match interview? I doubt it went down well personally and we have been down a similar route before :shrug:
Tony has previously said that De Zerbi is pushing him and Barber to up their standards and ambitions.
Tony won't have any issue with a manager pursuing excellence.

If De Zerbi had said there is a ceiling and I cannot do any better with what I am forced to work with,
Then Tony would have the right to feel aggrieved. But he didn't.
De Zerbi was purely justifying why we make mistakes.

We all know we need re-inforcements in January.

De Zerbi-ball takes time to adjust to, so he probably wants players that know his style, or already play in the way he needs.
Those players will not be cheap. The club policy of not over-paying for a player, may be the real stumbling block.
 






KZNSeagull

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Nov 26, 2007
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Hopefully a decent journalist will ask him to clarify his comments at the next press conference as it is not long ago, maybe pre-Arsenal, that when asked what he wanted in the transfer window his first answer was "I want all my injured players back".
 


raymondo

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Apr 26, 2017
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Hang on now - yes, he said it was 'the policy of the club' quite a few times. But his very last comment was that it had been 'the secret of the club'.

That really doesn't sound to me as though he was particularly criticising it. It was almost a Potter 'it is what it is' statement.
When we win with the youngsters on the pitch he speaks proudly about the policy of the club, and often says how he enjoys developing the young players. He has a love/hate relationship with our 'policy' 🎅
 


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