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Tevez and Mancini



Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,952
Surrey
Striker Carlos Tevez says he is open to playing again for Manchester City: "If I was wrong, I say sorry"



The pair of them make me want to VOMIT. And that's without even looking at Tevez's FACE.
 




Albion Dan

Banned
Jul 8, 2003
11,125
Peckham
Agree. How Mancini can come out of a Tevez return with any credit is beyond me. If I were a city fan id boo him to high heaven if he played again.
 






Dan Gleeballs

Active member
Nov 24, 2011
968
It stinks. There were plenty of City fans saying they'd never have him back. He's quality but he doesn't play for clubs he plays for himself. Mercenary. Say sorry & suddenly everything is fine. Seems to me Mancini is feeling the heat of United on his tail & with squeaky bum time has called for rat man to return
 




Seagull over Canaryland

Well-known member
Feb 8, 2011
3,557
Norfolk
As said on a different post it seems that the clubs and their staff in the Manchester / Liverpool area have lost touch with reality - and now this. OK Tevez is a world class player that cost a fortune but how many chances should he be given after walking out on the Club? What message is Mancini giving to others? What price loyalty?

Most punters on the terraces would not receive such treatment in their real world employment. Tevez (going awol), Suarez (racism in the workplace, bringing the club into disrepute etc) and Evra would most likely have been sacked for gross misconduct (albeit a smart alec barrister would probably appeal this). Their Managers finally having to be reigned in by the Club's owners while fans and sponsors cringe. Even had apologists on here.

Football clubs racking up serial debts and failing to pay staff and debtors while the FA do little to prevent a recurrence. Much of football is out of touch with reality. Look at the number of poor role models around the Premiership. Luckily we now have decent people running our Club.

But then look at todays news re. an illegal immigrant said to be a serious risk to national security can't be deported and a corrupt senior Police officer seems to have a catalogue of misdemeanours but has used 'the system' to umpteen lengths to prolong his bent career. It seems that cheats and criminals can prosper most of the time.
 




Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
53,153
Goldstone
Agree. How Mancini can come out of a Tevez return with any credit is beyond me. If I were a city fan id boo him to high heaven if he played again.
City are top of the league, despite one of their best players going awol, how can fans boo him?

This may be more down to politics and getting a fair fee for him. City have to be seen to be wanting to play him, otherwise he'll be free to walk off.
 




Dan Gleeballs

Active member
Nov 24, 2011
968
J
As said on a different post it seems that the clubs and their staff in the Manchester / Liverpool area have lost touch with reality - and now this. OK Tevez is a world class player that cost a fortune but how many chances should he be given after walking out on the Club? What message is Mancini giving to others? What price loyalty?

Most punters on the terraces would not receive such treatment in their real world employment. Tevez (going awol), Suarez (racism in the workplace, bringing the club into disrepute etc) and Evra would most likely have been sacked for gross misconduct (albeit a smart alec barrister would probably appeal this). Their Managers finally having to be reigned in by the Club's owners while fans and sponsors cringe. Even had apologists on here.

Football clubs racking up serial debts and failing to pay staff and debtors while the FA do little to prevent a recurrence. Much of football is out of touch with reality. Look at the number of poor role models around the Premiership. Luckily we now have decent people running our Club.

But then look at todays news re. an illegal immigrant said to be a serious risk to national security can't be deported and a corrupt senior Police officer seems to have a catalogue of misdemeanours but has used 'the system' to umpteen lengths to prolong his bent career. It seems that cheats and criminals can prosper most of the time.

Sad but so very true.

As for Tevez he says he was kind of in a bad mood that night in Munich. Didn't agree with Mancini taking off Dzeko for De Jong. He says Mancini treated him like a dog!! Oh poor Carlos. Blow your nose on this 25,000 bundle of notes
 


catfish

North Stand Brighton Boy
Dec 17, 2010
7,677
Worthing
I wouldn't want that horrible little man at my club no matter how good a player he is.
 


Acker79

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Nov 15, 2008
31,921
Brighton
This may be more down to politics and getting a fair fee for him. City have to be seen to be wanting to play him, otherwise he'll be free to walk off.

I believe, if the senior player is fit and you don't use him in at least x% of games (I would imagine an unused sub counts), the player can walk away for free. (There must be more to it than that, given the number of players signed to clubs and the logistics of playing them all - but this rule was highlighted with respect to Tevez when the whole thing kicked off).
 




banjo

GOSBTS
Oct 25, 2011
13,428
Deep south
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Here's the picture that proves they've made up.
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
53,153
Goldstone
I believe, if the senior player is fit and you don't use him in at least x% of games (I would imagine an unused sub counts), the player can walk away for free.
They said this on sky a few weeks ago when Milan were interested. They said if he hadn't been in 10% by the end of this season he could go (can't remember if any fee would be set). However I can't see how that would be the case if he's not played because he's awol, hence I think his advisors might tell him to be available, and likewise City have to be seen to be offering him the chance to play. If City won't let him play, they can't stop him going elsewhere.
 


Acker79

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Nov 15, 2008
31,921
Brighton
They said this on sky a few weeks ago when Milan were interested. They said if he hadn't been in 10% by the end of this season he could go (can't remember if any fee would be set). However I can't see how that would be the case if he's not played because he's awol, hence I think his advisors might tell him to be available, and likewise City have to be seen to be offering him the chance to play. If City won't let him play, they can't stop him going elsewhere.

Yes, sorry, meant to say fit and available. If he goes awol, they don't have to play him, and he can't use this clause to get out free. Meaning, if he comes back and says "I'm ready to play" Man City may be forced to use him, which I don't believe reflects poorly on mancini.
 




el_ciddy

Active member
Aug 26, 2011
855
"He's in the middle of an argument so then he tells me to keep on warming up and treats me like a dog.
"So when he spoke to me in that tone of voice, and I said 'No, I'm not going out'. So I was willing to play, but the coach was in such a foul mood because he had that argument with Dzeko.

You have to ask him nicely if he could possibly do the job he's being paid 200k a week to do. Mancini offering an olive branch and Tevez still can't just shut up and come back to play.
 


16bha

New member
Sep 6, 2010
2,806
East Stand Upper & Worthing
"He's in the middle of an argument so then he tells me to keep on warming up and treats me like a dog.
"So when he spoke to me in that tone of voice, and I said 'No, I'm not going out'. So I was willing to play, but the coach was in such a foul mood because he had that argument with Dzeko.

You have to ask him nicely if he could possibly do the job he's being paid 200k a week to do. Mancini offering an olive branch and Tevez still can't just shut up and come back to play.

If I was paying someone £200k a week, I would want the privilege of being able to kick his arse all the way down the touch line to warm up!
 




drew

Drew
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Oct 3, 2006
23,614
Burgess Hill
I believe, if the senior player is fit and you don't use him in at least x% of games (I would imagine an unused sub counts), the player can walk away for free. (There must be more to it than that, given the number of players signed to clubs and the logistics of playing them all - but this rule was highlighted with respect to Tevez when the whole thing kicked off).

Think you will find that is something that he may have in his contract with the club rather than a premier league rule. Much like when players have it in their contract that when they play an x number of games the club have to offer them an extension.

As for the situation, it is purely business. Man City need him in the shop window to sell him and he has to make himself appealling to other clubs so they pay the price City want. It's a short term inconvenience to a long term solution for both parties.
 




El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton
Helpful Moderator
Jul 5, 2003
40,006
Pattknull med Haksprut
It's toe curling, but no worse than Rooney asking for a transfer from United 18 months ago because the Gorton globetrotters offered him £50k a week more, and then withdrawing the transfer demand after a visit from the MEC and a pay rise.

United fans forgave him almost immediately after he scored a few goals, and if we are honest, most of us would do the same, even to RyanHarley and Billy Paynter.
 


Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
Man City need him in the shop window to sell him and he has to make himself appealling to other clubs so they pay the price City want. .

I would imagine any club who'll be happy to pay 200k a week and a whopping transfer fee knows all about him already? Which is why he's still at City. Only a very very desperate and rich club would even consider taking him I'd imagine.

His wages and transfer fee will be no more than petty cash to the City owners they could just sack him. I was incredulous that Mancini even considered having him back in the team let alone trying to justify it on TV. I will be amazed if he is not booed by his own fans rom the moment he steps on the pitch to the moment they haul him off again.
 
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