[Cricket] Test Series- England in India- January & February 2024

[Mo Gosfield]

This is the ugly side of Bazball. No change of mindset. Just stick to the only gameplan they know, irrespective of circumstances. Either win quickly or lose quickly. Wickets going down like a pack of cards and tailenders forced to try and prolong it, when all hope has been lost.
Sad to say but Root and Bairstow are not currently worth their place. Just wickets waiting to happen. Roots decision making has abandoned him.
England's batting strategy is geared to short term cricket. For some strange reason they feel they can apply it to 5 day Tests ( although in our case its usually 3/4 days )

 

[The Fits]

Bloody hell. Bazball is very frustrating. There is something very RDZ about it. No plan B. Teams know now - ride it out, you'll get your chances. Have to say though England's defence is even worse then ours.
Appalling really after a truly brilliant innings from Ducket.
Doesn't matter what sport it is, you can be revolutionary but you have to still do the basics properly.

 

[vegster]

This is the ugly side of Bazball. No change of mindset. Just stick to the only gameplan they know, irrespective of circumstances. Either win quickly or lose quickly. Wickets going down like a pack of cards and tailenders forced to try and prolong it, when all hope has been lost.
Sad to say but Root and Bairstow are not currently worth their place. Just wickets waiting to happen. Roots decision making has abandoned him.
England's batting strategy is geared to short term cricket. For some strange reason they feel they can apply it to 5 day Tests ( although in our case its usually 3/4 days )

Maybe we got lucky with Bazball at first...it might have confused a few opposition teams but now they they put the ball in the right place and wait for us to destruct. So that's that.

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

now they they put the ball in the right place and wait for us to destruct.

This is a pretty accurate description of test match bowling against all sides, to be fair.

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

Anybody who thinks England are bad for not playing test cricket seriously enough and placing too much emphasis on shorter formats, India are resting Bumrah for the next match "keeping his workload in mind - he's bowled 80.5 overs in the first three Tests - with an IPL season coming up followed closely by the 2024 T20 World Cup beginning on June 1".

Bumrah rested for fourth Test against England

KL Rahul is set to miss the fourth Test as well, while his participation in the final Test in Dharamsala is subject to fitness

www.espncricinfo.com

Of course we'll probably find a way to lose 5 wickets for squat against Jaiswal's part time leg breaks.

In all seriousness, it's really bad for cricket in general and the series in particular that they feel the need to rest him.

 

[Eeyore]

Robinson is recalled. A match too late for me.

Robinson, Bashir recalled for Ranchi Test, Wood and Rehan miss out

England make two changes for must-win fourth Test in wake of 434-run loss in Rajkot

www.espncricinfo.com

 

[maltaseagull]

Robinson is recalled. A match too late for me.

Robinson, Bashir recalled for Ranchi Test, Wood and Rehan miss out

England make two changes for must-win fourth Test in wake of 434-run loss in Rajkot

www.espncricinfo.com

If they bat as badly again and we lose this, then Root and Bairstow should be dropped.
They really need to come good this time.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

If they bat as badly again and we lose this, then Root and Bairstow should be dropped.
They really need to come good this time.

Bairstow yes.

Root has got credit in the bank for a long time yet. I'm really not sure i'd back Lawrence to come in and score more than Root would.

 

[timbha]

Robinson is recalled. A match too late for me.

Do you think you should have been selected for the third test?

 

[knocky1]

Stokes bowling full tilt in the nets. Might make a return to bowling at Ranchi and he might not.

 

[Eeyore]

Do you think you should have been selected for the third test?

Yeah, he was my choice.

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

Bairstow yes.

Root has got credit in the bank for a long time yet. I'm really not sure i'd back Lawrence to come in and score more than Root would.

Also we might struggle to pick Lawrence twice if they drop both Root and Bairstow.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Also we might struggle to pick Lawrence twice if they drop both Root and Bairstow.

Well quite. If you dropped both you'd have to find an all rounder, but i'm not sure who in the touring party qualifies under that description!

All this shows how much we're missing Brook

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Bairstow yes.

Root has got credit in the bank for a long time yet. I'm really not sure i'd back Lawrence to come in and score more than Root would.

Root not only has massive credit in the bank, regards his batting - he's also bowled 100+ overs in this series, at a RR of 3.1, and has taken 7 wickets (including those of KL Rahul, Jaiswal, Rohit and Jadeja twice)

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Root not only has massive credit in the bank, regards his batting - he's also bowled 100+ overs in this series, at a RR of 3.1, and has taken 7 wickets (including those of KL Rahul, Jaiswal, Rohit and Jadeja twice)

And you can't help but thinking this could be affecting his batting

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

This is the ugly side of Bazball. No change of mindset. Just stick to the only gameplan they know, irrespective of circumstances. Either win quickly or lose quickly. Wickets going down like a pack of cards and tailenders forced to try and prolong it, when all hope has been lost.
Sad to say but Root and Bairstow are not currently worth their place. Just wickets waiting to happen. Roots decision making has abandoned him.
England's batting strategy is geared to short term cricket. For some strange reason they feel they can apply it to 5 day Tests ( although in our case its usually 3/4 days )

Results suggest otherwise;

‘Before McCullum became coach, England had won one of its previous 17 tests. Since his arrival, England has won 14 of 21 tests — many of those victories coming in breathtaking fashion.’

'Bazball' here to stay as McCullum urges England to stay positive after heavy test loss in India

England’s “Bazball” approach isn’t going anywhere. Questions have again been raised about the merits of the attacking, front-foot style preferred by coach Brendon McCullum and captain Ben Stokes in the wake of England’s 434-run loss to India in the third test.

apnews.com

I don’t think that becomes 21 victories out of 21 by abandoning the approach. An analogy would be RDZ ball. You might say stop taking risk playing the ball around at the back and you win a few of the games you currently lose but unfortunately that would also mean sacrificing the foundation of many of the wins.

 

[Eeyore]

Results suggest otherwise;

‘Before McCullum became coach, England had won one of its previous 17 tests. Since his arrival, England has won 14 of 21 tests — many of those victories coming in breathtaking fashion.’

'Bazball' here to stay as McCullum urges England to stay positive after heavy test loss in India

England’s “Bazball” approach isn’t going anywhere. Questions have again been raised about the merits of the attacking, front-foot style preferred by coach Brendon McCullum and captain Ben Stokes in the wake of England’s 434-run loss to India in the third test.

apnews.com

I don’t think that becomes 21 victories out of 21 by abandoning the approach. An analogy would be RDZ ball. You might say stop taking risk playing the ball around at the back and you win a few of the games you currently lose but unfortunately that would also mean sacrificing the foundation of many of the wins.

I agree. But I'm sure Bazball can function at -10%

I don't think it would lose anything by not trying to premeditate a reverse sweep against Bumrah

 

[maltaseagull]

Also we might struggle to pick Lawrence twice if they drop both Root and Bairstow.

Wood outscored them both in the 2nd innings last test. Could do a job?

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Wood outscored them both in the 2nd innings last test. Could do a job?

Root took more wickets than Wood, in 3 of the 4 innings Wood has played

 

[maltaseagull]

Root took more wickets than Wood, in 3 of the 4 innings Wood has played

Swap roles??