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Team for Saturday



Sep 14, 2006
472
Philadelphia
== AN OPEN LETTER TO ALL BRIGHTON & HOVE ALBION FANS ==

How about this team for Saturday vs. Chesterfield.

Henderson or Kuipers

Ingimarrson Virgo McShane Lynch

Sidwell Hammond Carole

D Henderson Zamora Kazim Richards

Subs: Butters, Mayo, Robinson, Knight, Sullivan

Manager: Adams, Taylor, Coppell or McGhee

Attendance: 8,000 Sell Out

Do you think that team would be sitting above Cardiff right now? Funny thing is, that team was all very very possible with an ambitious team running the club. This team would have cost us no more than 500K-750K with most of the money spent on McShane and Sidwell. Could we afford the wages? Probably not right now but who knows. A club knocking on the door of the Premiership would attract enormous attention, improved sponsorship, better gates and possible investment. Look at Pompey and look at Reading.

I have never posted on this board before but have been a die hard exiled fan for 30 years and often read some of the postings (usually laughing at the idiotic nonsense). I thought it time to stop reading and to begin to contribute to a dialogue that I hope will ultimately result in a better club.

I have been very fortunate in business and the US has been good to me since I left Brighton 20 years ago. I suppose I should be in a position to put my money where my heart is and invest in the club but I wouldn't until Mr. Knight decides there are other options to improve the standing of the club.

I watched and participated (Fans Utd) in the removal of Archer and Bellotti and would not wish the club to return to those dark days of ownership in the hands of spiteful and selfish men. But isn't it time we move on? Isn't it time to encourage broader participation and more than a request for investment (from fans) but without a matching say in the development of the club? Should we expect a board of investors who can and will invest in the business? I think a team costing no more than 750K, that I detail above, is a reasonable expectation and one that we could all be proud of.

On the pitch is what matters most. Having a beautiful new ground can also ensure you join the Darlington, Swansea and Huddersfield club and no guarantee of solvency or success. Falmer is PART of a future but not without a squad that is truly capable of entertaining the fans and competing at a decent level. Can we have both? That is a question that must be answered. Will we kick our first ball at Falmer in League Two (Division 4) or worse? Perhaps the crowds will dwindle to the much discussed 4,000 core and the business plan for Falmer will be all there is to show for 8 years of effort and millions spent with lawyers?

Mr. Knight should consider whether he is part of the problem or part of the solution? No one should doubt his work and commitment to the club. In the same way I wouldn't begin to criticize the love and passion of countless men who have tried to run their businesses but for lack of funding or skill have run their company's into the ground.

This letter isn't about opening old wounds or contributing to prejudices held by different fan factions. It is my opinion on the state of the club and a potential future if we continue on our present course. I would suggest that the fans (if this is an open club) expect more from the board. Dean Wilkins is not going to achieve miracles with the resources he has. We have had some of the finest managers in the country in Taylor, Coppell, McGhee and Adams. What do they have in common? They did all they could under the constraints imposed upon them by a paradigm created by the Chairman and when they could do no more they moved on.

As fans we have a right to voice sensible opinions. As owners, the Chairman and board have a right to ignore them. That is how all business is run. But the paying customers then have the right to reject the business and vote with their hard earned money. The club risks ruin by marching ahead as we are.

I appeal to the board and to Mr. Knight to give serious thought to a new future. Perhaps it is time to move on. The gratitude for removing Archer, for bringing us back to Brighton and the fight for Falmer will never be forgotten.

We need more than a new manager, we need new ideas and new leadership.

Sincerely,

One Loyal Exiled Fan
 




algie

The moaning of life
Jan 8, 2006
14,713
In rehab
Marlton & Hove Albion said:
== AN OPEN LETTER TO ALL BRIGHTON & HOVE ALBION FANS ==

How about this team for Saturday vs. Chesterfield.

Henderson or Kuipers

Ingimarrson Virgo McShane Lynch

Sidwell Hammond Carole

D Henderson Zamora Kazim Richards

Subs: Butters, Mayo, Robinson, Knight, Sullivan

Manager: Adams, Taylor, Coppell or McGhee

Attendance: 8,000 Sell Out

Do you think that team would be sitting above Cardiff right now? Funny thing is, that team was all very very possible with an ambitious team running the club. This team would have cost us no more than 500K-750K with most of the money spent on McShane and Sidwell. Could we afford the wages? Probably not right now but who knows. A club knocking on the door of the Premiership would attract enormous attention, improved sponsorship, better gates and possible investment. Look at Pompey and look at Reading.

I have never posted on this board before but have been a die hard exiled fan for 30 years and often read some of the postings (usually laughing at the idiotic nonsense). I thought it time to stop reading and to begin to contribute to a dialogue that I hope will ultimately result in a better club.

I have been very fortunate in business and the US has been good to me since I left Brighton 20 years ago. I suppose I should be in a position to put my money where my heart is and invest in the club but I wouldn't until Mr. Knight decides there are other options to improve the standing of the club.

I watched and participated (Fans Utd) in the removal of Archer and Bellotti and would not wish the club to return to those dark days of ownership in the hands of spiteful and selfish men. But isn't it time we move on? Isn't it time to encourage broader participation and more than a request for investment (from fans) but without a matching say in the development of the club? Should we expect a board of investors who can and will invest in the business? I think a team costing no more than 750K, that I detail above, is a reasonable expectation and one that we could all be proud of.

On the pitch is what matters most. Having a beautiful new ground can also ensure you join the Darlington, Swansea and Huddersfield club and no guarantee of solvency or success. Falmer is PART of a future but not without a squad that is truly capable of entertaining the fans and competing at a decent level. Can we have both? That is a question that must be answered. Will we kick our first ball at Falmer in League Two (Division 4) or worse? Perhaps the crowds will dwindle to the much discussed 4,000 core and the business plan for Falmer will be all there is to show for 8 years of effort and millions spent with lawyers?

Mr. Knight should consider whether he is part of the problem or part of the solution? No one should doubt his work and commitment to the club. In the same way I wouldn't begin to criticize the love and passion of countless men who have tried to run their businesses but for lack of funding or skill have run their company's into the ground.

This letter isn't about opening old wounds or contributing to prejudices held by different fan factions. It is my opinion on the state of the club and a potential future if we continue on our present course. I would suggest that the fans (if this is an open club) expect more from the board. Dean Wilkins is not going to achieve miracles with the resources he has. We have had some of the finest managers in the country in Taylor, Coppell, McGhee and Adams. What do they have in common? They did all they could under the constraints imposed upon them by a paradigm created by the Chairman and when they could do no more they moved on.

As fans we have a right to voice sensible opinions. As owners, the Chairman and board have a right to ignore them. That is how all business is run. But the paying customers then have the right to reject the business and vote with their hard earned money. The club risks ruin by marching ahead as we are.

I appeal to the board and to Mr. Knight to give serious thought to a new future. Perhaps it is time to move on. The gratitude for removing Archer, for bringing us back to Brighton and the fight for Falmer will never be forgotten.

We need more than a new manager, we need new ideas and new leadership.

Sincerely,

One Loyal Exiled Fan

Mr Algie here doesn't bother reading posts more then five lines.Try and scale it down mate.It' just a message board. after all.Why bother will ex players now when we have a crisis now?Pointless
 


Man of Harveys

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
18,895
Brighton, UK
Is this one of those Nigerian letters?

Well - if there is any truth in this (and I'm OUT)...I'd maybe contact the club before attempting to rabble-rouse on here first? Just a thought.
 


Jul 5, 2003
23,777
Polegate
No Gary Hart?:eek:

Seriously though - it is clear from that (a very good first post) that finances are the MAIN issue regarding the playing side...but as long as we are playing at Withdean, it would appear that everyone with any money to invest (such as yourself) is reluctant to do so.
 


Man of Harveys

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
18,895
Brighton, UK
And, btw, if that sub is that little runt Leon Knight, the pair of you can f*** off. Cheers.
 




algie

The moaning of life
Jan 8, 2006
14,713
In rehab
Withdean Wanderer said:
No Gary Hart?:eek:

Seriously though - it is clear from that (a very good first post) that finances are the MAIN issue regarding the playing side...but as long as we are playing at Withdean, it would appear that everyone with any money to invest (such as yourself) is reluctant to do so.

Watch it:angry:

I'll pick on you again tonight Mark:lol:
 




algie

The moaning of life
Jan 8, 2006
14,713
In rehab
Withdean Wanderer said:
What have I said now!


Nothing yet.I'm on the prowl:wave: :lol:
 




jakes right boot

New member
Jul 29, 2006
549
So we need new investment.
Any clues as to who these monied millionaires are who want to invest and become our new leaders?
 


Bakesy

Farting for ENGLAND!!!
Feb 13, 2005
9,667
How would i know?I'm pissed.
jakes right boot said:
So we need new investment.
Any clues as to who these monied millionaires are who want to invest and become our new leaders?
Ardiles and Maradona?........Naaaaaaa,don't think so.
 


Sep 14, 2006
472
Philadelphia
Reading
Portsmouth
Cardiff
Aston Villa
Peterborough
Hearts
Manchester United
Stoke City
Darlington
Wigan Athletic
Derby County
Bournemouth
Brentford
Crawley Town
Wrexham
Millwall
Northampton Town
Leeds United
Sheffield Wednesday
Chelsea
Stockport County
Huddersfield Town
Leyton Orient
Yeovil Town
Hull City
Birmingham City
Norwich City

Q. What do these clubs have in common?
A. All have changed ownership in the past 10 years.

In response to the posting about where will our investors come from, I did 30 minutes of research. With more time, I could find 20-30 more. Granted not all of these examples ended with Premiership Titles but for the most part the results were a stronger club with better or new facilities.

There are lots of people who are looking to invest in english football clubs. Some (Archer) aren't the type you want but is that a reason to continue down our same path?

One option (tried by thousands of companies every year btw) is to put the club up for sale and see who responds to the offer. Even clubs in considerable distress and playing at a lower level (Crawley Town) find buyers.

Happy to be slagged off if that makes you feel better. Sorry to be so wordy but caring passionately about a club isn't easily conveyed in two lines.
 




jakes right boot

New member
Jul 29, 2006
549
Q. What do these clubs have in common?
They've got grounds.

Until that is sorted out we won't get investment.
 


supaseagull

Well-known member
Feb 19, 2004
9,614
The United Kingdom of Mile Oak
Marlton & Hove Albion said:

Cardiff
Peterborough
Manchester United
Stoke City
Darlington
Derby County
Bournemouth
Brentford
Crawley Town
Wrexham
Leeds United
Sheffield Wednesday
Huddersfield Town
Norwich City

Q. What do these clubs have in common?


1. All are debt ridden with debts ranging from £15 to £600 million.
2. All have assetts that a businessman would want to invest in
3. All have their own ground
 


Rookie

Greetings
Feb 8, 2005
12,324
Marlton & Hove Albion said:


One option (tried by thousands of companies every year btw) is to put the club up for sale and see who responds to the offer. Even clubs in considerable distress and playing at a lower level (Crawley Town) find buyers.

Oh if it was that easy. Crawley not the best example either
 




Skint Gull

New member
Jul 27, 2003
2,980
Watchin the boats go by
We've already had Meridain TV spouting off shit this week trying to upset the fans and cause a problem between us and the board, we could do without an anonymous 'supporter' trying to stir it up a week before we're due back in court.

Nothing you can say or do now is gonna make a blind bit of difference to the outcome of the court case so just leave it out and let us all be united as a club until we get a 'final' decision!
 




The Large One

Who's Next?
Jul 7, 2003
52,343
97.2FM
That is one seriously and hopelessly over-simplified 'SOMEONE! DO SOMETHING NOW!' type post. It's not as though these things haven't been considered and debated to death. But until someone does come along with (a) a big whack of cash and (b) the best interests of the clubs as a WHOLE at heart, then we will forever be beating our heads against the wall with ''SOMEONE! DO SOMETHING NOW!' type threads.

We all know why there are no investors, and until that situation is remedied, this debate is always only ever going to be about our future plans - assuming we have one - and not about the here and now.
 


CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
45,101
I'd have Knight, Zammo and Henderson up front with Kazim-Richards on the bench. Coppell manager?
 






Behind Enemy Lines

Well-known member
Jul 18, 2003
4,887
London
Marlton & Hove Albion said:
== AN OPEN LETTER TO ALL BRIGHTON & HOVE ALBION FANS ==

How about this team for Saturday vs. Chesterfield.

Henderson or Kuipers

Ingimarrson Virgo McShane Lynch

Sidwell Hammond Carole

D Henderson Zamora Kazim Richards

Subs: Butters, Mayo, Robinson, Knight, Sullivan

Manager: Adams, Taylor, Coppell or McGhee

Attendance: 8,000 Sell Out

Do you think that team would be sitting above Cardiff right now? Funny thing is, that team was all very very possible with an ambitious team running the club. This team would have cost us no more than 500K-750K with most of the money spent on McShane and Sidwell. Could we afford the wages? Probably not right now but who knows. A club knocking on the door of the Premiership would attract enormous attention, improved sponsorship, better gates and possible investment. Look at Pompey and look at Reading.

I have never posted on this board before but have been a die hard exiled fan for 30 years and often read some of the postings (usually laughing at the idiotic nonsense). I thought it time to stop reading and to begin to contribute to a dialogue that I hope will ultimately result in a better club.

I have been very fortunate in business and the US has been good to me since I left Brighton 20 years ago. I suppose I should be in a position to put my money where my heart is and invest in the club but I wouldn't until Mr. Knight decides there are other options to improve the standing of the club.

I watched and participated (Fans Utd) in the removal of Archer and Bellotti and would not wish the club to return to those dark days of ownership in the hands of spiteful and selfish men. But isn't it time we move on? Isn't it time to encourage broader participation and more than a request for investment (from fans) but without a matching say in the development of the club? Should we expect a board of investors who can and will invest in the business? I think a team costing no more than 750K, that I detail above, is a reasonable expectation and one that we could all be proud of.

On the pitch is what matters most. Having a beautiful new ground can also ensure you join the Darlington, Swansea and Huddersfield club and no guarantee of solvency or success. Falmer is PART of a future but not without a squad that is truly capable of entertaining the fans and competing at a decent level. Can we have both? That is a question that must be answered. Will we kick our first ball at Falmer in League Two (Division 4) or worse? Perhaps the crowds will dwindle to the much discussed 4,000 core and the business plan for Falmer will be all there is to show for 8 years of effort and millions spent with lawyers?

Mr. Knight should consider whether he is part of the problem or part of the solution? No one should doubt his work and commitment to the club. In the same way I wouldn't begin to criticize the love and passion of countless men who have tried to run their businesses but for lack of funding or skill have run their company's into the ground.

This letter isn't about opening old wounds or contributing to prejudices held by different fan factions. It is my opinion on the state of the club and a potential future if we continue on our present course. I would suggest that the fans (if this is an open club) expect more from the board. Dean Wilkins is not going to achieve miracles with the resources he has. We have had some of the finest managers in the country in Taylor, Coppell, McGhee and Adams. What do they have in common? They did all they could under the constraints imposed upon them by a paradigm created by the Chairman and when they could do no more they moved on.

As fans we have a right to voice sensible opinions. As owners, the Chairman and board have a right to ignore them. That is how all business is run. But the paying customers then have the right to reject the business and vote with their hard earned money. The club risks ruin by marching ahead as we are.

I appeal to the board and to Mr. Knight to give serious thought to a new future. Perhaps it is time to move on. The gratitude for removing Archer, for bringing us back to Brighton and the fight for Falmer will never be forgotten.

We need more than a new manager, we need new ideas and new leadership.

Sincerely,

One Loyal Exiled Fan

I've no doubt you have best intentions but if you really want to make a difference for God's sake give Dick Knight a ring and have a chat about the POSSIBILITY of you investing in the club. That's what the club - the board, the team and the fans need, someone to help the squad NOW.
 


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