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Teacher accused of Child Porn possesion



Icy Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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He goes on gardening leave and it is not broadcast to the world until they know exactly what is going on

You are surely not naive enough to believe that is an option, although if it were possible I would agree.

There is no way a teacher being arrested could be hushed up.
 




Springal

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You are surely not naive enough to believe that is an option, although if it were possible I would agree.

There is no way a teacher being arrested could be hushed up.

Why not? If there is no evidence of anything more than just looking at it online, ie, not relating to any PHYSICAL abuse, then surely there is no need?

I work in the ISP sector and we get so many times, the police asking for the information of someone that was using a certain IP address at a certain time, but that does not prove exactly WHO was using the connection.

As I look right now at home, there are 4 open wireless access points I could join and do any web browsing I wanted.
 






wellquickwoody

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Aug 10, 2007
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What has happened is not ideal, so what do you suggest would have been the right way to handle this, and hpw would you have managed to keep it all quiet until the trial?

Once arrested the Police/authorities inform the Head of the school, the arrested teacher is then immediately suspended on full pay. The head teacher, press and Police could then be legally gagged from disclosing any details or identities until any case went to court. It can be done in sexual abuse/rape cases when protecting the alleged victims. Why not now?
 




auschr

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Once arrested the Police/authorities inform the Head of the school, the arrested teacher is then immediately suspended on full pay. The head teacher, press and Police could then be legally gagged from disclosing any details or identities until any case went to court. It can be done in sexual abuse/rape cases when protecting the alleged victims. Why not now?

Because we love a good paedo story
 


Icy Gull

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Once arrested the Police/authorities inform the Head of the school, the arrested teacher is then immediately suspended on full pay. The head teacher, press and Police could then be legally gagged from disclosing any details or identities until any case went to court. It can be done in sexual abuse/rape cases when protecting the alleged victims. Why not now?

Sounds fine but I just cannot see that with something as big (within the school) happening that the insinuations/allegations could be kept quiet. It is very different to a one off event between two people where it is feasible to keep the names confidential.
 






WATFORD zero

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Springal makes a good point, it doesn't take much technical nous to surf for free on someone else's wireless network.

I bet Dave Jones is counting himself lucky that he had a secure network and firm handshake.
 


What if the accusations turn out to be unfounded? If so then a mans career is potentially ruined and the Argus putting a picture up of him hasn't really helped his case.

It looks like he hasn't actually been given the sack at this moment so hopefully the school are doing the right thing and waiting to see if this man, who apparently is a nice guy, is convicted.
 


Gwylan

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Of course if he's found not guilty The Argus could be in for a huge Libel suit as would his employer.

Not at all.

The Argus has done nothing wrong. If they'd said he was a paedophile, he'd have a case but all the Argus has said is that he was accused of being a paedophile. The truth is always a defence in libel and it's plainly true that he has been so accused..

Nor can he sue his employer. The school has acted perfectly reasonably in view of the charges he faced. But again, the school don't appear to be saying that he is a paedophile.

He may well have a case against the school for wrongful dismissal if he is not guilty but I wouldn't have thought that was cut and dried either.
 




Acker79

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I have met him and he has a "dead/limp fish handshake" nuff said. Always bang to right in my book if you cant shake hands properly.:wrong:

Traditionally, professional wrestlers all have limp handshakes, as way of recognising those in the know. Guys on the outs would give overly firm handshakes to prove how tough they were, so the wrestlers gave each other limp handshakes.

Personally, I view handshakes as a greeting to show a lack of hostility, you're not trying to prove your strength and greater power, you're supposed to be indicating empty handedness, no weapons, no threat.
 
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Gonzo

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Couldn't believe it when I saw his picture on the front of the Arsegas accompanied by that shocking headline. He taught me German for 2 years. He was always a very softly spoken and gentle man, I always assumed he was gay.
 






bhaexpress

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You are surely not naive enough to believe that is an option, although if it were possible I would agree.

There is no way a teacher being arrested could be hushed up.

It would not have been that difficult to make a credible excuse about the man's absence. If he's found not guilty (not that likely I wouldn't have thought) then, as I said previously, he can say he has been libelled and be in a position to claim some very large damages.

As it is now guilty or innocent his career is well and truly over.
 


Gwylan

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If he's found not guilty (not that likely I wouldn't have thought) then, as I said previously, he can say he has been libelled and be in a position to claim some very large damages.

And, as I pointed out above, he has no grounds for suing for libel and can't claim for any damages - large or otherwise.
 


patchamalbion

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What if the accusations turn out to be unfounded? If so then a mans career is potentially ruined and the Argus putting a picture up of him hasn't really helped his case.

It looks like he hasn't actually been given the sack at this moment so hopefully the school are doing the right thing and waiting to see if this man, who apparently is a nice guy, is convicted.

Hes admitted it and a statement apologising etc was read out to the teachers the other day from him.
 


bhaexpress

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Not at all.

The Argus has done nothing wrong. If they'd said he was a paedophile, he'd have a case but all the Argus has said is that he was accused of being a paedophile. The truth is always a defence in libel and it's plainly true that he has been so accused..

Nor can he sue his employer. The school has acted perfectly reasonably in view of the charges he faced. But again, the school don't appear to be saying that he is a paedophile.

He may well have a case against the school for wrongful dismissal if he is not guilty but I wouldn't have thought that was cut and dried either.

Very thin line there as he'll always be stigmatised by the accusation. Mind you I agree it's not very likely that he'll get off.
 




Aldo

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Jul 15, 2008
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would of expected that sort of stuff at a catholic school?

:fishing:
 


Meade's Ball

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I own the album of a former German teacher at Stringer. He was teaching us in his final year and pretty much all he did, knowing his end was near, was read a paper and tell us to get on with things. Nice man. After he left Stringer we visited his home and he had a shoulder-high stack of his album in the corner of his near-to-Withdean home, a playful folk classic, The Great Fish Finger Disaster, and he kindly signed each copy he handed to us. I still hope it will become highly valued and i can cash in on that visiting-the-retired-to-nab-their-valuables investment.

*hyphen-overdose*
 


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