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bigc

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Jul 5, 2003
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sorry for this but i wondered if you have to pay income tax if you're at university?

something tells me you don't but i'm not sure and i assumed someone on NSC would know, it is the font of all knowledge after all.
 




watsongooal

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Jul 7, 2003
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Chislehurst
bigc said:
sorry for this but i wondered if you have to pay income tax if you're at university?

something tells me you don't but i'm not sure and i assumed someone on NSC would know, it is the font of all knowledge after all.

I didnt when I was there. But that was a while ago (2000)
 






Commander

Arrogant Prat
NSC Patron
Apr 28, 2004
13,580
London
Cadiz Seagull said:
Everybody has to pay income tax, even children, if their income is over the personal allowance mentioned by BoF

Does that include pocket money?
 






bigc

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Jul 5, 2003
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well it certainly isn't likely to meet that!heh.

I just wondered how they work out the exemption. cos I've started working and I'm being taxed(it doesnt bother me if I should be) but if I'm not supposed to be, then I want to find out a way to correct it.

I hadn't filled out a P46 till Sunday so that might correct it
 


Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
Yet more confirmation - yes, you do need to pay tax on anything above your personal allowance (usually £5035), if it's savings income and you haven't filled out a tax exemption form with your bank/building society then you've already been deducted at source and there's nothing more to pay (unless you're a higher rate tax payer earning about £40k plus a year). If it's employed income then your employer is responsible for deducting tax and NI. If it's self-employed income you will need to fill in a tax return.

You do not need to fill in a tax return if you are not a higher rate tax payer AND all your income is savings/employed.

El Presidente will (hopefully) back me up on this.

Disclaimer to cover my back with my professional body - this is not tax or investment advice given by me. If you want specific tax advice you are best advised to go to a chartered tax adviser/accountant with proper indemnity insurance.
 






Bluejuice

Lazy as a rug on Valium
Sep 2, 2004
8,270
The free state of Kemp Town
You pay income tax on PAYE earnings over £5,035 in a year.

If you're earning more than that with an employer as a student, what are you doing at uni?
 


bigc

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Jul 5, 2003
5,740
Buzzer said:
Yet more confirmation - yes, you do need to pay tax on anything above your personal allowance (usually £5035), if it's savings income and you haven't filled out a tax exemption form with your bank/building society then you've already been deducted at source and there's nothing more to pay (unless you're a higher rate tax payer earning about £40k plus a year). If it's employed income then your employer is responsible for deducting tax and NI. If it's self-employed income you will need to fill in a tax return.

You do not need to fill in a tax return if you are not a higher rate tax payer AND all your income is savings/employed.

It is just deducting it from my weekly paypackets. I mean it's only about £10 a week but as I'm sure you understand, if I'm entitled to retain the £10 I will.
 




Barrel of Fun

Abort, retry, fail
I was given the wrong tax code and they IR took £1,000 too much of me. It was a real biatch to get back and took over 3 months or so... Good way of saving, but I needed it at the time really to pay off some of my credit card bill. :angry:
 




Gazwag

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Mar 4, 2004
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Bexhill-on-Sea
bigc said:
It is just deducting it from my weekly paypackets. I mean it's only about £10 a week but as I'm sure you understand, if I'm entitled to retain the £10 I will.

what is the tax code shown on the payslip - if its 503L then its correct, if its 503L week/month 1 or something else then it may be wrong. Ask for a P46, complete it and return it they will send it to the tax office and issue the correct code. I assume its your only job
 




Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
Gazwag said:
Unless that "pocket money" is being claimed as a tax deduction in a parents business.

no not true. It's then not a legitimate business expense and gets added back to profits in the business where it is taxed at where it should be. The other side is then treated as drawings by prorietor or by director. Also, children's investment income if over £250(?) or is it £100 when derived from parent's money is taxed on the parent also. That is interest/dividends earned.
 
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Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
Gazwag said:
what is the tax code shown on the payslip - if its 503L then its correct, if its 503L week/month 1 or something else then it may be wrong. Ask for a P46, complete it and return it they will send it to the tax office and issue the correct code. I assume its your only job


Spot on - by the sounds of it you're on emergency tax or not even getting any personal allowances.

By the way - when you receive your P46 photocopy and give to your employer. A lot of employers either get electronic notification or no notification so best to cover your bases.
 


Gazwag

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Mar 4, 2004
30,739
Bexhill-on-Sea
Buzzer said:
no not true. It's then not a legitimate business expense and gets added back to profits in the business where it is taxed at where it should be. The other side is then treated as drawings by prorietor or by director.

I was implying that the child was in effect employed by the business and could justifiabled be paid thereby earning the money
 






Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
Gazwag said:
I was implying that the child was in effect employed by the business and could justifiabled be paid thereby earning the money

ahh...apologies.

There's an interesting tax case involving, if I recall correctly, a pig farmer who tried to justify payments to his children as salary in the 1920s or 30s.

...and lost!
 


Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
bigc said:
It's is BR.

okey dokey. That means you are getting taxed at 22% on ALL your income. When you filled in your P46 did you tick that you had other employment income?

Do you have other employment income?

If not to both questions then get in touch with your payroll or the tax office direct, inform them of this and you will then get a revised coding notice which will mean that you will get a pay packet with all the overdeducted tax back and then on in should be taxed correctly.

PM me, if in doubt.
 


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