Taricco determined to tighten up leaky defence

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Interesting insight from Taricco. Whether it works or not is down to whether the "team" can take this on board. Not being derogatory, but if this is something completely new to them then it might either take some time or because they are at the limit of their abilities never be able to run with it. I suppose we will find out in the next few weeks.



Taricco determined to tighten up leaky defence
12:00pm Tuesday 1st December 2009

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By Andy Naylor »


First the good news. Albion’s win ratio has improved dramatically under Gus Poyet.

It is currently 60%, a healthy improvement on the miserable 16.66% prior to his appointment.

Now the bad news. The Seagulls are still conceding goals at the same sort of horrid rate.

They have let in ten in five matches with the Uruguayan in charge, compared to nine in the final five games of Russell Slade’s reign.

Poyet and his Argentinian accomplice, Mauricio Taricco, are trying to amend the persistent trend by encouraging collective responsibility.

Taricco said: “We are working on working together and covering each other and not leaving spaces for teams to get in between us. That is what we are concentrating on to stop the leaks.

“It is a little bit like this in general in division one. Teams go one v one all over the pitch.

“We don’t believe in one v ones. We believe in a team and in people helping each other and giving them cover, working in pairs and in threes. We are going forward with that mentality.”

 

[Fred Oliver - Legend]

i expect a cleansheet tonight then!

 

[Acker79]

By Andy Naylor »


It is currently 60%, a healthy improvement on the miserable 16.66% prior to his appointment.

That's a little misleading.

3 wins in 5 is what we have. One of those wins was v a non league outfit.
One of those wins was v a team we beat under slade.

 

[folkestonesgull]

makes a lot of sense. To do this the team will have to be very fit, with the midfield in particular operating box to box

 

[Uncle C]

I was once told by a coach of a premiereship club that players in the top divisions are intelligent enough to take on instructions.

In the lower divisions that ability decreases significantly. It is also exacerbated by playing kids with little real experience.

 

[seagullwedgee]

I don't agree with this approach at all.

there are 3 ways of organising a defence:

1. man on man, you do your job properly, and expect your team mates to do the same. End of.

2. zone. mark some space, leading to genuine confusion over who should go for it, and meaning your never close enough to give the bloke your marking a shove to put him off balance. recipe for disaster.

3. a bit of both. do your job, but leave your station if someone else is failing in their's, leaving your man unmarked, unless yet another of your team mates spots it quickly, decides to help you out, leaves his man unmarked. chaos. not sure our blokes are either clever enough or quick enough to do this.

only one way to go, do your job properly. If you all do, you'll have a clean sheet.

 

[Austrian Gull]

I don't agree with this approach at all.

there are 3 ways of organising a defence:

1. man on man, you do your job properly, and expect your team mates to do the same. End of.

All fine and dandy but what happens if we have a full-back who is regularly being skinned by an opposing player?

Doubling up on players to win the ball back is important.

It's what our players do when they win the ball back that concerns me e.g. passing the ball to a specific player and not aimlessingly hoofing.

 

[seagullwedgee]

if we have someone who is out of his depth, get rid.

if you can't change the people, change the people.

Yes, I know, teamwork is key, doubling up when safe to do so, that all make sense, I'm just trying to make a point that with our relatively incompetent base resources tarrico's ideas all seem a bit complex for a bunch of people low on talent, brainpower and confidence.

But I guess you have to start somewhere....

 

[The Large One]

if we have someone who is out of his depth, get rid.

if you can't change the people, change the people.

Yes, I know, teamwork is key, doubling up when safe to do so, that all make sense, I'm just trying to make a point that with our relatively incompetent base resources tarrico's ideas all seem a bit complex for a bunch of people low on talent, brainpower and confidence.

But I guess you have to start somewhere....

The alternative, it appears, is to do nothing...

 

[Worthai Seagull]

I don't agree with this approach at all.

there are 3 ways of organising a defence:

1. man on man, you do your job properly, and expect your team mates to do the same. End of.

2. zone. mark some space, leading to genuine confusion over who should go for it, and meaning your never close enough to give the bloke your marking a shove to put him off balance. recipe for disaster.

3. a bit of both. do your job, but leave your station if someone else is failing in their's, leaving your man unmarked, unless yet another of your team mates spots it quickly, decides to help you out, leaves his man unmarked. chaos. not sure our blokes are either clever enough or quick enough to do this.

only one way to go, do your job properly. If you all do, you'll have a clean sheet.

So you know better then do you.....please apply for the next managers job !

 

[seagullwedgee]

I've studied the game closely over 40 years.

it is a question of doing the basics brilliantly, consistently, nothing flash.

I'm just abit worried that at this the Poet and Tarrico are taking a different tack, trying to get them to do something quite complex from a standing start, when quite clearly we have not even mastered the basics.

But he's the boss paid to make the decisions and execute tham perfectly. I'm just a seagull fan of 36 years standing who is sick and tired of of the 'hot knife thru butter' performances of recent days/weeks/months/years.

good luck to him, i desperately hope he pulls it off, something has to change thats for sure.

 

[theonesmith]

I've studied the game closely over 40 years.

it is a question of doing the basics brilliantly, consistently, nothing flash.

I'm just abit worried that at this the Poet and Tarrico are taking a different tack, trying to get them to do something quite complex from a standing start, when quite clearly we have not even mastered the basics.

But he's the boss paid to make the decisions and execute tham perfectly. I'm just a seagull fan of 36 years standing who is sick and tired of of the 'hot knife thru butter' performances of recent days/weeks/months/years.

good luck to him, i desperately hope he pulls it off, something has to change thats for sure.

First off, I doubt I have anywhere near the same level of your experience in football.

However, I do kinda agree with Tarricco. We're not playing as a team, we seem too organised into defence-midfield-attack (in my opinion).

I think if you get the team to play better together, how he seems to want, you can get better performances out of more average players. Look at when Blackpool went up a few seasons ago, or us a few seasons ago. We didn't spend loads of have a class team, we just played and covered as a team.

 

[Goldstone Rapper]

That's a little misleading.

3 wins in 5 is what we have. One of those wins was v a non league outfit.
One of those wins was v a team we beat under slade.

How does a win against a team we beat under Slade not count?

 

[Titanic]

I've studied the game closely over 40 years.

it is a question of doing the basics brilliantly, consistently, nothing flash.

Sorry to appear picky, but BRILLIANTLY means FLASH.

 

[Bozza]

I've studied the game closely over 40 years.

I'm just a seagull fan of 36 years standing

Who did you support for the other 4 years before you saw the light?

 

[Acker79]

However, I do kinda agree with Tarricco. We're not playing as a team, we seem too organised into defence-midfield-attack (in my opinion).

I think that has been a problem for large parts of the season. I think it's why it took so long for people outside our strike force to score.


In GP and MT's defence, I will say what has been pointed out a few times: They've had no time to work on things. Tonight sees our 6th game in 17 days. Factor in days for recovering from the game before, days preparing specifically for the next game, how much time is there left for spending time ironing out the kinks? Not to mention, he wants to see what the all players are capable of, what their weaknesses are before he starts designing training for them.

I think it may take until mid december (when they will have had a almost a whole week to train) before we start to get an idea of how MT and GP are approaching training and whether their methods are working etc.

 

[Lush]

The other aspect of defence Taricco mentions in his SEagulls iPlayer interview is concentration. He says that too many players are caught off guard when the ball is put somewhere they weren't expecting.

Are there techniques you can use to sharpen brains in training/before the match?

 

[Bozza]

Are there techniques you can use to sharpen brains in training/before the match?

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[Titanic]

The other aspect of defence Taricco mentions in his SEagulls iPlayer interview is concentration. He says that too many players are caught off guard when the ball is put somewhere they weren't expecting.

Are there techniques you can use to sharpen brains in training/before the match?

Yes... set Charley on them!

 

[Bozza]

Works for these chaps...