Sussex Enterprise - New Park & Ride @ Braepool.

[larus]

There's a petition going round in our company from Sussex Enterprise to get the council to provide a Park & Ride scheme at Braepool.

Does anyone know if this is 'linked' to the planning application for the additional 2000 seats at Withdean?

 

[WATFORD O]

No one cares.......................

 

[Ding Dong !]

Watford O


Piss off you plank !!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Ding Dong !]

Larus...

Where is Braepool ??

 

[larus]

Bottom of A23 where it joins A27 (by football pitches).

 

[Gwylan]

I'm Brighton born and raised but that's a new one on me: where the hell is Braepool?

 

[Gwylan]

Bottom of A23 where it joins A27 (by football pitches).

Isn't that Waterhall?

 

[larus]

Other side of the A23 (east side).

 

[Superseagull]

Braepool is on the left hand side of the A23 as you come down from Brighton just before the A27 junction. The RSPCA building is at the end of the playing field. I think the plan is to put the carpark underground and them put the pitches back on top once building is complete.

http://www.multimap.com/map/browse....m=0&scale=25000&multimap.x=299&multimap.y=262

 

[larus]

Braepool is on the left hand side of the A23 as you come down from Brighton just before the A27 junction. The RSPCA building is at the end of the playing field. I think the plan is to put the carpark underground and them put the pitches back on top once building is complete.

If that's the plan, then it's not linked to the 2000 seats at Withdean.

 

[Brovion]

I'm Brighton born and raised but that's a new one on me: where the hell is Braepool?

As you're going north up the A23 out of Brighton it's on the right-hand side immediately after you've gone under the A27. You've obviously never played local football or cricket!

A 3000 space park and ride scheme there would be excellent. Absolutely no chance of it happening though as, horror of horrors, it means putting concrete on a field. Can't have that now can we? The countryside must be preserved in it's current (artificial) state and all development is BAD!

 

[Brovion]

Braepool is on the left hand side of the A23 as you come down from Brighton just before the A27 junction. The RSPCA building is at the end of the playing field. I think the plan is to put the carpark underground and them put the pitches back on top once building is complete.

I didn't realise that was the plan. Why not just use the farmland the other side of the football pitches? Save the underground car parks for the city center where they are really needed.

 

[Bigtomfu]

know where you mean but there are only football pitches there unless they are going to park on the grass and give lifts from the the car park next to the rspca building cant see that going ahead the only transport connections there is a dodgy road not proeprly tarmaced running past some houses and down a narrow lane.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

I know a bit about this.

In the mid-nineties, when ESCC still had responsibility for highways and transportation matters in Brighton, we commissioned a consultants' report into possible park and ride sites to serve the city. I was one of the project managers dealing with this for the County Council, where I worked at the time.

The conclusions were that park and ride would make a major contribution towards a sustainable transport strategy, but sites would be a problem, particularly since there was a need to balance operational efficiency and transport benefits against adverse environmental impacts.

Operationally, the best site is Waterhall. But it is unacceptable on environmental grounds.

Braypool is nearby, but less sensitive as a site - most of it is outside the AONB. Operationally, it's not as good - in my opinion - because access to the site for cars and buses could be quite difficult, and the access roads would be quite expensive and need to be very carefully designed.

However, on balance, Braypool is possibly the best site available for a large park and ride facility on the outskirts of the city. If Sussex Enterprise are pushing for it, that can only help.

I'm sure there will be objectors, though. Friends of the Earth and other environmental lobbyists oppose the principle of park and ride, on the grounds that it encourages car travel. [But they understate the benefits of congestion relief in the City Centre]. And there will be the usual array of defenders of green space.

As far as the 2,000 extra seats are concerned, I can't see how Braypool can help - given that it will be some years before the site could be developed. But Braypool could offer additional capacity for the Falmer Stadium park and ride requirements.

In the short term, maybe the Patcham Court Farm site might be used to good effect for extra park and ride facilities for Withdean? That's south of the bypass, not far from the access road to the Braypool site. But Patcham Court Farm has a very controversial planning history that might make it difficult.

 

[b.w.2.]

So... the "imminent" announcement on a new option for P&R that the club mentioned several months ago wasn't really "imminent" was it!?....

 

[Lord Bracknell]

So... the "imminent" announcement on a new option for P&R that the club mentioned several months ago wasn't really "imminent" was it!?....

I hear it's got a bit complicated.

But the Club isn't to blame.

 

[ditchy]

I didn't realise that was the plan. Why not just use the farmland the other side of the football pitches? Save the underground car parks for the city center where they are really needed.

if they can spend that much doe on that scheme why cant they provide a stadium at waterhall with the parking and rail limks ..both are north of bypass ..makes planning laws absolute bollox

 

[Lord Bracknell]

if they can spend that much doe on that scheme why cant they provide a stadium at waterhall with the parking and rail limks ..both are north of bypass ..makes planning laws absolute bollox

The [slightly technical] answer is that funds for park and ride projects come from one of three sources - government transport grant, government approved borrowing, or surpluses from on-street parking charges in the city - none of which are available to fund a stadium. If the government money doesn't get spent on transport projects in Brighton and Hove, it will be spent on transport projects elsewhere.

As for the comment on development north of the by-pass ... is there a better site for park and ride that isn't in the AONB? As we well know, it's the AONB/National Park designation that protects most land from development, not the bypass.

 

[dougdeep]

It would be sad to lose football pitches to build a car park.