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[Albion] Summer Signings



amexer

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Aug 8, 2011
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We spent near £200m on new players. Incredible that we have just outplayed Manchester Utd with only one of these players in starting eleven
 






Mustafa II

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Oct 14, 2022
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We sign for the future, not for immediate success.

A lot of the signings will be starting against, and beating, Man Utd in future seasons.
 




Han Solo

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May 25, 2024
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Incredible yes.

Also not good enough. The club needs to seriously consider if it should stop signing half-injured footballers for big money.

Sure, Wieffer and Ferdi might have been unlucky or whatever but fact remains that we bought two injured players who have then continued to be injured pretty much all the time. Maybe this "buying unfit players" thingie should be put on hold until these two gentlemen prove its a sensible way of recruiting.
 




Guinness Boy

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We had a couple of threads on this around new year but I genuinely can’t be arsed to find them so this’ll do.

Georginio / Rutter is probably my favourite Premier League player currently. Maybe ever. The sheer joy on his face is incredibly uplifting.

Minteh’s pace is outstanding but his second touch is often a tackle. There’s a lot there though and the potential for him is very high if he can just play, play, play.

Weiffer is an enigma wrapped up in an enigma. He’s done good things. He’s done bad things. And he’s mostly been injured.

Ferdi might be that player that only played for us a handful of times. Or he might come back stronger. But, currently, it’s all hype and injury. Disappointing.

Not as disappointing as O’Riley though. Walking proof of how shit Scotch football is. Physically weak, not much pace and no clear idea of ideal position.
 


Nobby Cybergoat

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Jul 19, 2021
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Incredible yes.

Also not good enough. The club needs to seriously consider if it should stop signing half-injured footballers for big money.

Sure, Wieffer and Ferdi might have been unlucky or whatever but fact remains that we bought two injured players who have then continued to be injured pretty much all the time. Maybe this "buying unfit players" thingie should be put on hold until these two gentlemen prove its a sensible way of recruiting.
Alright but it's also players who have been with us a long time who've gone down injured not just the new signings

And I don't think (but i'll defer to anyone more interested in particular player injuries than me) either Wieffer or Ferdi are currently out with the same issue which they had when they arrived. They both got here, had something or other that kept them out. Got fit, played a little bit, then got a different injury.
 


Han Solo

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May 25, 2024
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Alright but it's also players who have been with us a long time who've gone down injured not just the new signings

And I don't think (but i'll defer to anyone more interested in particular player injuries than me) either Wieffer or Ferdi are currently out with the same issue which they had when they arrived. They both got here, had something or other that kept them out. Got fit, played a little bit, then got a different injury.
Ferdi seems a different injury (maybe, not sure what his problem was when he came but IIRC the foot injury was bad luck) but from the few clues from Wieffer its the same thigh he's been struggling with since April last year and has been reouccuring since then. Its obviously impossible to know the ins and outs but from a helicopter perspective it looks a proper wonky signing.
 




Nobby Cybergoat

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Ferdi seems a different injury (maybe, not sure what his problem was when he came but IIRC the foot injury was bad luck) but from the few clues from Wieffer its the same thigh he's been struggling with since April last year and has been reouccuring since then. Its obviously impossible to know the ins and outs but from a helicopter perspective it looks a proper wonky signing.
Yes, it looks wonky now and may remain so.

But I always think there's a load of media bollocks about how Brighton always get recruitment right. I mean we're good at it, but we're not infallible.

Our record last summer and the one before, is about .... "two clearly really good, two pretty bad, and about 5 or 6, still too early to tell"

In PL terms that's a decent return, but yeh if we make a cock up or two, we can't beat ourselves up about it
 


AstroSloth

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Dec 29, 2020
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Incredible yes.

Also not good enough. The club needs to seriously consider if it should stop signing half-injured footballers for big money.

Sure, Wieffer and Ferdi might have been unlucky or whatever but fact remains that we bought two injured players who have then continued to be injured pretty much all the time. Maybe this "buying unfit players" thingie should be put on hold until these two gentlemen prove its a sensible way of recruiting.
Gruda was also injured when we signed him so we signed more than two injured players.
 


Han Solo

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May 25, 2024
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Yes, it looks wonky now and may remain so.

But I always think there's a load of media bollocks about how Brighton always get recruitment right. I mean we're good at it, but we're not infallible.

Our record last summer and the one before, is about .... "two clearly really good, two pretty bad, and about 5 or 6, still too early to tell"

In PL terms that's a decent return, but yeh if we make a cock up or two, we can't beat ourselves up about it

Indeed, it is inevitable that some signings fail. Sometimes because the club made the wrong decision, sometimes because circumstances that can't be predicted. Take Karbo and Moder - two signings that will have to be considered failures but for different reasons. One because we f***ed up buying a full back who hated to play full back, one because the world f***ed up, ruining Moders knee. Shit happens.

But this is the second year in a row where our "experienced"/"marquee" signings doesn't work. James Milner, Mohamed Dahoud, Ansu Fati, Igor, Ferdi, Wieffer, O'Riley... at best their contributions have been "meh". Its not a good record in that category of players.
 




AstroSloth

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Dec 29, 2020
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Indeed, it is inevitable that some signings fail. Sometimes because the club made the wrong decision, sometimes because circumstances that can't be predicted. Take Karbo and Moder - two signings that will have to be considered failures but for different reasons. One because we f***ed up buying a full back who hated to play full back, one because the world f***ed up, ruining Moders knee. Shit happens.

But this is the second year in a row where our "experienced"/"marquee" signings doesn't work. James Milner, Mohamed Dahoud, Ansu Fati, Igor, Ferdi, Wieffer, O'Riley... at best their contributions have been "meh". Its not a good record in that category of players.
I'd say our marquee signing for 23/24 was Pedro.

This season it's hard to pick a marquee signing when we spent so much, but highest fee is Rutter and "experienced" players are Wieffer and O'Riley.

Pedro is phenomonal if frustrating at times.
Rutter is great and I absolutely love the man.
Wieffer was getting far more comfortable before his latest injury.
O'Riley is hard to tell as he's not had a prolonged spell in the side.
 




Glad to see Minteh getting the credit he deserves now, thought he’s showed his quality from the get-go even tho of course there’s been some ineffective games (like every player we have, even the NSC faves)
 


JBizzle

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Apr 18, 2010
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But this is the second year in a row where our "experienced"/"marquee" signings doesn't work. James Milner, Mohamed Dahoud, Ansu Fati, Igor, Ferdi, Wieffer, O'Riley... at best their contributions have been "meh". Its not a good record in that category of players.
But none of these players were "marquee" signings other that perhaps Fati and Ferdi. Dahoud and Fati were signed outside the algorithm to appease De Zerbi, Milner, arguably, was never supposed to be anything other than a benchplayer/dressing room influence. Igor, I'd argue, has been a success, and Weiffer, Ferdi and O'Riley were desperately unlucky with injuries.

Our marquee signings were Minteh and Rutter this summer, and Joao Pedro, Baleba and Verbruggen last summer and I'd argue that the latter four have been huge successes with the former improving every game.
 


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