seagulls99
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What is the difference between a striker and a centre forward?
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A centre-forward is an old fashioned term for a striker, so is usually used in recent times to describe a striker in the old traditional mould i.e. one that didn't play in a withdrawn role or didn't have exceptional playmaking qualities.
I wouldn't describe Messi as a centre-forward but I would say he was a striker. Andy Carroll, Gary Lineker, Ian Rush, Bob Latchford, Nat Lofthouse, Stan Mortenson and Michael Robinson are centre-forwards.
I wouldn't describe Messi as a centre-forward but I would say he was a striker. Andy Carroll, Gary Lineker, Ian Rush, Bob Latchford, Nat Lofthouse, Stan Mortenson and Michael Robinson are centre-forwards.
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Good question, by the way. Along the same lines, do wingers count as forwards or as midfielders or does that depend on the type of forward they are?
GingerBeerMan
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I would say the opposite. In relative terms centre forwards play a little behind the position a striker would and is a little bit more involved in build up play. A striker plays nearer the goal and gives the midfielders a person to aim at with crosses or passes. Not much difference in it though to be honest.
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Yes, although there are quite a lot of false nines in the game nowaways.
It first came to prominence in this country when Nandor Hidgekuti wore a number 9 shirt in the game Hungary beat England 6-3 at Wembley. Confused the hell out of Harry Johnston, the English number 5.
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Central forwards: Carroll, heskey, Ibrahimovich, morientes, klose, adebayor, van Persie, bergkamp, Glenn Murray, Gomez, Cavani, giroud, papiss Cisse, drogba
Strikers: fat Ronaldo, raul, David villa, Henry, Defoe, Owen, CMS, aguero, Tevez, podolski, Torres
Some players are both perhaps? And some are also classed as second strikers. It's a confusing topic. Heskey and Owen are your perfect example. Little and large.
To add confusion we now have false number 9's (messi for Barca, fabregas for Spain) and wingers (c.ronaldo who I'd still class as a winger forward suppose to just a winger like robben). Lets not confuse the winger with a right and left midfielder either (Beckham & giggs or ljungberg and pires for example)
Centre forward
The centre forward is often a tall player, typically known as a target man, whose main function is to score the majority of goals for his team. He may also be used to win long balls or receive passes and "hold up" the ball as team-mates advance, to help teammates score by providing a pass ('through ball' into the box); the latter variation usually requiring quicker pace. Most modern centre forwards operate behind the strikers, but do the majority of the ball handling outside the box; however, some forwards operate on the wings of the field and work their way goalward. The present role of centre forward is interchangeable with that of an attacking midfielder, especially in the 4-3-1-2 or 4-1-2-1-2 formations. A centre forward usually must be strong, to win key headers and 'outmuscle' defenders. His classic number is 9.
The term centre forward is taken from the early football playing formation in which there were five forward players: two Outside forwards, two inside forwards, and one centre forward. When numbers were introduced in the 1933 English FA Cup final, one of the two centre forwards that day wore the number nine Everton's Dixie Dean a strong, powerful forward who had set the record for the most goals scored in one season in English football during the 1927-28 season. The number would then become synonymous with the centre forward position (only one that day because one team was numbered 1–11 whilst the other was numbered 12–22). The modern era has different formations and has squad numbers rather than numbers 1–11, but some positions still retain their original numbers and a traditional centre forward or target man is often found wearing the number nine, such as Alan Shearer, who wore the number 9 shirt at club and international level, or Fernando Torres, the Spanish centre forward player who is wearing number nine in his team and at international level.
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Striker
The striker is rather different from the centre forward. Strikers are more known for their ability to peel off defenders and to run into space via the blind side of the defender and to receive the ball in a good goalscoring position. They are typically fast players with decent ball control and dribbling abilities. A good striker should be able to shoot confidently with both feet, possess great power and accuracy, and have the ability to pass the ball under pressure in breakaway situations. While many strikers also wear the number 9 shirt, the position is traditionally associated with the number 10, occasionally numbers 7 and 11, though both of these are more common for wingers.
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Strikers: fat Ronaldo, raul, David villa, Henry, Defoe, Owen, CMS, aguero, Tevez, podolski, Torres
Some players are both perhaps? And some are also classed as second strikers. It's a confusing topic. Heskey and Owen are your perfect example. Little and large.
To add confusion we now have false number 9's (messi for Barca, fabregas for Spain) and wingers (c.ronaldo who I'd still class as a winger forward suppose to just a winger like robben). Lets not confuse the winger with a right and left midfielder either (Beckham & giggs or ljungberg and pires for example)
Centre forward
The centre forward is often a tall player, typically known as a target man, whose main function is to score the majority of goals for his team. He may also be used to win long balls or receive passes and "hold up" the ball as team-mates advance, to help teammates score by providing a pass ('through ball' into the box); the latter variation usually requiring quicker pace. Most modern centre forwards operate behind the strikers, but do the majority of the ball handling outside the box; however, some forwards operate on the wings of the field and work their way goalward. The present role of centre forward is interchangeable with that of an attacking midfielder, especially in the 4-3-1-2 or 4-1-2-1-2 formations. A centre forward usually must be strong, to win key headers and 'outmuscle' defenders. His classic number is 9.
The term centre forward is taken from the early football playing formation in which there were five forward players: two Outside forwards, two inside forwards, and one centre forward. When numbers were introduced in the 1933 English FA Cup final, one of the two centre forwards that day wore the number nine Everton's Dixie Dean a strong, powerful forward who had set the record for the most goals scored in one season in English football during the 1927-28 season. The number would then become synonymous with the centre forward position (only one that day because one team was numbered 1–11 whilst the other was numbered 12–22). The modern era has different formations and has squad numbers rather than numbers 1–11, but some positions still retain their original numbers and a traditional centre forward or target man is often found wearing the number nine, such as Alan Shearer, who wore the number 9 shirt at club and international level, or Fernando Torres, the Spanish centre forward player who is wearing number nine in his team and at international level.
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Striker
The striker is rather different from the centre forward. Strikers are more known for their ability to peel off defenders and to run into space via the blind side of the defender and to receive the ball in a good goalscoring position. They are typically fast players with decent ball control and dribbling abilities. A good striker should be able to shoot confidently with both feet, possess great power and accuracy, and have the ability to pass the ball under pressure in breakaway situations. While many strikers also wear the number 9 shirt, the position is traditionally associated with the number 10, occasionally numbers 7 and 11, though both of these are more common for wingers.
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JCL666
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Centre forwards are only involved in build up play if they are a LUMP and the team plays HOOF ball. In which case they are expected to have two skills. Heading and elbowing.
I personaly would have had berkamp down as a striker rather than a centre forward I always think of striker as centre forwards with a brain
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It's difficult because for arsenal he held the ball up while Henry spun in behind... He's really a second striker but could be classed as a centre forward for his hold up play... It's a grey area with a lot of players. Not many these days have 1 description. Van Persie does it all.. Hold up play and spins in behind. So does Torres sometimes for Chelsea. The 4-3-3 formations have cocked up the traditional centre forward and striker descriptions. I suppose you give them the title of what they do most so bergkamp really is a second striker.
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Bergkamp was a centre-forward earlier in his career when he was a young'un. However, his attacking role shifted somewhat later in his career.
I see what you mean i suppose thinking about players like berkamp are something else again ?? l
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Exactly. And don't even get me started on messi. He holds up play by keeping the ball (centre forward) runs in behind (striker) comes from deep (second striker), supplies through ball passes (second striker & false number 9) & drops in the hole. (False number 9).
if in afew years if i had to descibe what sort of player messi was i just would not be able to very hard to describe just how he plays ?
apart of course very well