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[Politics] Stop the boats











Springal

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Feb 12, 2005
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GOSBTS
Not the criminal gangs then? .... repulsive twunts on social media trying to score political points from tragedy.

Well the plan isn’t working is it ? Except since the ‘clampdown’ the problem has got worse.
 


GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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repulsive Tories with Blood on their hands,

I think you'll find that it wasn't the Tories that organised the boat and charged people their life savings for a place on it, or arranged for it to be so overloaded it sank. I also think you'll find that the Tories have been trying (not very successfully it's true) to find ways to stop criminal gangs in France selling places on unsafe and illegal boats.

But maybe you don't want to find these things. Whatever, your chances of getting a job as a sub-editor would appear to be zero based on this example of your work!

Yes, there are many things to blame the Tories for (and plenty of threads on NSC where you can do it!) but this isn't one of them.
 
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Deportivo Seagull

I should coco
Jul 22, 2003
5,445
Mid Sussex
Not the criminal gangs then? .... repulsive twunts on social media trying to score political points from tragedy.
The governments incompetence is playing into the criminal gangs hands. If you can’t see that then take your head out of your arse.
 
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Mileoakman

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Aug 11, 2003
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The name gives it away
I think you'll find that t wasn't the Tories that organised the boat and charged people their life savings for a place on it, or arranged for it to be so overloaded it sank. I also think you'll find that the Tories have been trying (not very successfulky it's true) to find ways to stop criminal gangs in France selling places on unsafe and illegal boats.

But maybe you don't want to find these things. Whatever, your chances of getting a job as a sub-editor would appear to be zero based on this example of your work!

Yes, there are many things to blame the Tories for (and plenty of threads on NSC where you can do it!) but this isn't one of them.
Sorry but you can blame the Tories. If they operated save and legal routes for migrants, either processing them overseas before they came, or by speedily processing the thousands here already, (sorry to tell you that's Labour Party policy), then there would be no need for migrants to throw their life savings at people smugglers.

So yes its very much the Tories fault!
 






Guinness Boy

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Jul 23, 2003
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Time surely for the government to arrange for a daily ferry service so that brexit loving migrants can safely travel to the land of the free from France .

The average ferry should be able to transport approx 1000 people at a time which should be sufficient for now :thumbsup:
Not the criminal gangs then? .... repulsive twunts on social media trying to score political points from tragedy.
Like flies round shit. Quiet day lads?
 


portlock seagull

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Jul 28, 2003
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We should build over the remainder of England, and invite 1 billion to live here. Then we can become like China and compete in world again. Win win :) Save all this faffing around trying to stop people you can’t stop or do anything about. Just embrace.
 






WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
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Small Boat crossings by year

2018 - 299
2019 - 1,890
2020 - 8,466
2021 - 28,526
2022 - 45,755

So the same old supporters of this cabal and policy are still claiming that this isn't a planned policy, it's simply down to total and utter incompetence :dunce:

Figures weren't recorded prior to 2018 as before closing down all legal channels for asylum, stopping asylum applications from abroad, and cutting the vast majority of asylum processing staff, the numbers were negligible. Who knew :shrug:
 
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trueblue

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Jul 5, 2003
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Hove
I think you'll find that t wasn't the Tories that organised the boat and charged people their life savings for a place on it, or arranged for it to be so overloaded it sank. I also think you'll find that the Tories have been trying (not very successfulky it's true) to find ways to stop criminal gangs in France selling places on unsafe and illegal boats.

But maybe you don't want to find these things. Whatever, your chances of getting a job as a sub-editor would appear to be zero based on this example of your work!

Yes, there are many things to blame the Tories for (and plenty of threads on NSC where you can do it!) but this isn't one of them.
It is the Tories though who've closed off all 'safe and legal' routes to the UK for most people, forcing desperate asylum seekers into the hands of these scum bags. They can't claim asylum in the UK until they're in the country. The only way to get here safely is to be selected for refugee resettlement by the UN, unless they happen to be from Ukraine, Hong Kong or Afghanistan. 'Resettlement' is the lie they hide behind to massage the figures and make it sound like we do our bit when, in fact, we help far fewer people overall than other major European countries.
 






beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,993
The tories shut down legal routes for asylum applications and that means people are making this hazardous journey. You can definitely blame the tories for the results of their policies.
they didnt, just assumption this happened because of promises to get tough on immigration. the lorry route got cut off due to proper cross channel checks. has no one noticed the same problem in the Med, because no other European country offers this safe route solution?

it is a simple solution, offering permits to travel or visas in other countries, then processing them here once they arrive, then returning the unsuccessful ones. unfortunatly there are some drawbacks and no country wants to do this.
 


GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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Sorry but you can blame the Tories. If they operated save and legal routes for migrants, either processing them overseas before they came, or by speedily processing the thousands here already, (sorry to tell you that's Labour Party policy), then there would be no need for migrants to throw their life savings at people smugglers.

So yes its very much the Tories fault!
There are legal routes. Many people do arrive in the UK legally. Yes, the processing once here should be quicker, but the criminal gangs don't sell places on death-trap boats because the processing is slow! One reason for some (many?) of the boat passengers trying to get in illegally is to avoid processing.
 
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Mileoakman

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Aug 11, 2003
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Well that's not working either. Someone should tell them that once they get here they will be carted off to a barge, detention centre, etc and wait months or years to be processed.
There not avoiding processing, just joining a very, very long queue.
 


Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
25,415
Sussex by the Sea
All a bit of a pickle.

I'm sure that the next Prime Minister will have this at the top of his 'to sort out' list.
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

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Oct 8, 2003
55,890
Faversham
I think you'll find that it wasn't the Tories that organised the boat and charged people their life savings for a place on it, or arranged for it to be so overloaded it sank. I also think you'll find that the Tories have been trying (not very successfully it's true) to find ways to stop criminal gangs in France selling places on unsafe and illegal boats.

But maybe you don't want to find these things. Whatever, your chances of getting a job as a sub-editor would appear to be zero based on this example of your work!

Yes, there are many things to blame the Tories for (and plenty of threads on NSC where you can do it!) but this isn't one of them.
The Sunday Mail (I saw the deadline in Sainsbury's) blames the French.

So, in a tit for tat manouvre, I blame the Tories. For letting this old bollocks rumble on for 13 year.

  • Underfund immigration services and patrols.
  • Announce savings have fuelled tax cuts.
  • Get votes from approving members of the public.
  • Illegal crossings increase.
  • Blame the EU.
  • Rinse and repeat.
 


WATFORD zero

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The tories shut down legal routes for asylum applications and that means people are making this hazardous journey. You can definitely blame the tories for the results of their policies.
they didnt, just assumption this happened because of promises to get tough on immigration. the lorry route got cut off due to proper cross channel checks.

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard begs to differ



An oldie but a goody :thumbsup:
 


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