Still can't beat the top six but does that matter

[Giraffe]

Someone else mentioned to me how similar this season feels to 1990-91. In that season whilst we were good we were clearly not as a good as the teams that that eventually got promoted, but still made the play offs and were one good from the top flight.

This season we are making a good job of beating teams we should whilst failing to beat any of the "good" teams. This suggests that our position is about right and that play offs will come. Just hope we can buck the trend on 1st December.

1 Crystal Palace
2 Cardiff City DREW
3 Middlesbrough LOST
4 Hull City LOST
5 Leicester City LOST
6 Blackburn Rovers
7 Brighton and Hove Albion
8 Huddersfield Town WON
9 Millwall WON
10 Nottingham Forest
11 Watford WON
12 Blackpool DREW
13 Derby County DREW
14 Charlton Athletic
15 Burnley WON
16 Wolves DREW
17 Bolton Wanderers
18 Leeds United DREW
19 Birmingham City LOST
20 Barnsley WON
21 Sheffield Weds WON
22 Ipswich Town DREW
23 Bristol City
24 Peterborough WON

 

[Leosayer]

pretty similar to last season - how many of the top 6 did we beat?

 

[Albion Dan]

We beat a team in the top 6 on Saturday.

 

[Eagle Slayer]

Sheff weds were in the top 6 when we beat them earlier in the season

 

[Hamilton]

Ah, but I prefer to look at the table through a different set of specs i.e. with my rose tinted spectacles I ask what should the result have been and then it looks somewhat different altogether (all subjective.)

1 Crystal Palace
2 Cardiff City DREW
3 Middlesbrough DREW
4 Hull City DREW
5 Leicester City LOST
6 Blackburn Rovers
7 Brighton and Hove Albion
8 Huddersfield Town WON
9 Millwall WON
10 Nottingham Forest
11 Watford DREW
12 Blackpool LOST
13 Derby County DREW
14 Charlton Athletic
15 Burnley WON
16 Wolves DREW
17 Bolton Wanderers
18 Leeds United WON
19 Birmingham City DREW
20 Barnsley WON
21 Sheffield Weds WON
22 Ipswich Town WON
23 Bristol City
24 Peterborough WON

 

[Giraffe]

We beat a team in the top 6 on Saturday.

Sheff weds were in the top 6 when we beat them earlier in the season

I'm talking about current top six teams. At this stage of the season we can start to see who the teams to beat are and so far we haven't beaten any of them.

 

[SeagullSongs]

Well if we've beaten them, they're less likely to be in the top 6 because they haven't beaten us...

 

[Eagle Slayer]

I'm talking about current top six teams. At this stage of the season we can start to see who the teams to beat are and so far we haven't beaten any of them.

.... or you could look on the bright side and say we have only lost once to the 17 teams below us

 

[Acker79]

Huddersfield were in sixth place when we beat them. As were Sheffield Wednesday.

 

[Everest]

I'm talking about current top six teams. At this stage of the season we can start to see who the teams to beat are and so far we haven't beaten any of them.

Hudds were a team to beat on Sat. And we did just that.
You can't just take 17 games as the cut off point.
I can see 2 or 3 of the current top 6 ending outside the playoffs anyway.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Huddersfield were in sixth place when we beat them. As were Sheffield Wednesday.

You beat me to it. Post 4 also said the same thing.

 

[BensGrandad]

Surely where they are now is totally immaterial and this should be based on where the clubs were when we played them, like Sheff Wed and Huddersfield were.

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

Looking forward to us putting HUMILIATE along side the name of the top team

 

[albion534]

Doesn't matter who we lose to, some games we deserve to win when we lose regardless of position, were hitting some form now anyway

 

[El Turi]

I don't think the teams above us are that much better than us. Our performances against Middlesbrough, Leicester and Hull all arguably deserved results.

 

[Albion Dan]

I'm talking about current top six teams. At this stage of the season we can start to see who the teams to beat are and so far we haven't beaten any of them.

As most have said. Up to just Saturday Hudds were the sixth best team in the division and we soundly beat them.

 

[The Modfather]

Come 5 o'clock on the 1st of December it wont be an issue anymore

 

[Giraffe]

The Huddersfueld result and where they were before does not matter.

Anyway you are all missing the point. I think it a good thing. It shows we are beating teams when we need to even if we are not quite ready to compete with the top teams YET.

 

[KZNSeagull]

The Huddersfueld result and where they were before does not matter.

Anyway you are all missing the point. I think it a good thing. It shows we are beating teams when we need to even if we are not quite ready to compete with the top teams YET.

Of course it matters. They are no longer in the top 6 because we beat them.

I see what you are saying, but I think this analysis can only be done meaningfully towards the end of the season.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

Ah, but I prefer to look at the table through a different set of specs i.e. with my rose tinted spectacles I ask what should the result have been and then it looks somewhat different altogether (all subjective.)

1 Crystal Palace
2 Cardiff City DREW
3 Middlesbrough DREW
4 Hull City DREW
5 Leicester City LOST
6 Blackburn Rovers
7 Brighton and Hove Albion
8 Huddersfield Town WON
9 Millwall WON
10 Nottingham Forest
11 Watford DREW
12 Blackpool LOST
13 Derby County DREW
14 Charlton Athletic
15 Burnley WON
16 Wolves DREW
17 Bolton Wanderers
18 Leeds United WON
19 Birmingham City DREW
20 Barnsley WON
21 Sheffield Weds WON
22 Ipswich Town WON
23 Bristol City
24 Peterborough WON

Disagree with......
a) Leicester......should have drawn.
b) Wolves........should have won.
I know we can all play the ' should have/would have/could have ' game but these analyses would give us 31 pts and 34 pts respectively, which perhaps shows that we have 4-6 points to make up, that we should already have.
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