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Stiliyan Petrov sad news



Crispy Ambulance

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May 27, 2010
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Burgess Hill
Am I the only one uncomfortable with all this "sad news" and minutes' applause stuff lately?

"Sad" news for me is when someone dies. Someone being ill is concerning news, but "sad" still seems a bit strong. While the laying of flowers at the Reebok for Muamba seemed almost morbid. A Talksport presenter tweeted today that "everyone should be praying for Petrov". I'm sorry, but no nonetity of a radio presenter tells me who I should and shouldn't pray for.

Don't get me wrong, I wish both Muamba and Petrov all the best, but some of the stuff surrounding their ordeals has been ridiculous. I'm sure Villa might offer some sort of show of support tomorrow but there's no need for every club to leap on the bandwagon. If I was in Petrov's shoes, I wouldn't want a minute's anything, as I still associate that with death.

No you're not the only one. This stems from the media influenced frenzy surrounding the grieving over Diana's death where it became the norm to go completely over the top whenever anything happened to someone in the public eye and a combination of people following, sheep-like, cos everyone else is doing it, together with one upmanship as in 'look at me grieving better and different to you'. As mentioned above, the same thing happened with Jade Goody, albeit some good came of that with raised awareness of screening for cancer.

Something changed in the mentality of the general British public with Diana's death. 'We' became more obssessed with celebrities and their lives and, through the likes of the crappy Hello, You and populist media outlets, needed to know every aspect of their lives. Then, when something bad happened to one of them (Goody), felt that 'we' had to collectively mourn because 'we' knew her and she was part of 'us' and 'our' lives. Well, no she wasn't. She was (IMHO) a talentless bint from Essex who got lucky and died young leaving kids behind. Sad but no sadder than a young mum from Portslade going the same way without all the national outpouring of 'grief' cos she wasn't a celeb.

As we've seen this week with the panic buying of petrol (when a strike hasn't been announced and can't happen until the week after next at the earliest), the general British public are fuckwits, easily led and unable to think things through for themselves.

So it's Diana's fault that there's a lack of petrol anywhere in Burgess Hill.
 




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May 9, 2008
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Am I the only one uncomfortable with all this "sad news" and minutes' applause stuff lately?

"Sad" news for me is when someone dies. Someone being ill is concerning news, but "sad" still seems a bit strong. While the laying of flowers at the Reebok for Muamba seemed almost morbid. A Talksport presenter tweeted today that "everyone should be praying for Petrov". I'm sorry, but no nonetity of a radio presenter tells me who I should and shouldn't pray for.

Don't get me wrong, I wish both Muamba and Petrov all the best, but some of the stuff surrounding their ordeals has been ridiculous. I'm sure Villa might offer some sort of show of support tomorrow but there's no need for every club to leap on the bandwagon. If I was in Petrov's shoes, I wouldn't want a minute's anything, as I still associate that with death.
I agree, wish him well but just been reported on sky news that at petrovs "insistence" the game with chelsea will go ahead, if anyone in authority even considered doing so it would be ridiculous.
 




pigbite

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Sep 9, 2007
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Am I the only one uncomfortable with all this "sad news" and minutes' applause stuff lately?

"Sad" news for me is when someone dies. Someone being ill is concerning news, but "sad" still seems a bit strong. While the laying of flowers at the Reebok for Muamba seemed almost morbid. A Talksport presenter tweeted today that "everyone should be praying for Petrov". I'm sorry, but no nonetity of a radio presenter tells me who I should and shouldn't pray for.

Don't get me wrong, I wish both Muamba and Petrov all the best, but some of the stuff surrounding their ordeals has been ridiculous. I'm sure Villa might offer some sort of show of support tomorrow but there's no need for every club to leap on the bandwagon. If I was in Petrov's shoes, I wouldn't want a minute's anything, as I still associate that with death.

Totally agree.

Has there been any mention of any "tribute" at the game today? If there is a round of applause will you join in?

My stance will be to briefly clap to show my agreement with the sentiment that we all wish him the best but that's where it stops.
 


Am I the only one uncomfortable with all this "sad news" and minutes' applause stuff lately?

"Sad" news for me is when someone dies. Someone being ill is concerning news, but "sad" still seems a bit strong. While the laying of flowers at the Reebok for Muamba seemed almost morbid. A Talksport presenter tweeted today that "everyone should be praying for Petrov". I'm sorry, but no nonetity of a radio presenter tells me who I should and shouldn't pray for.

Don't get me wrong, I wish both Muamba and Petrov all the best, but some of the stuff surrounding their ordeals has been ridiculous. I'm sure Villa might offer some sort of show of support tomorrow but there's no need for every club to leap on the bandwagon. If I was in Petrov's shoes, I wouldn't want a minute's anything, as I still associate that with death.

I agree, wish him well but just been reported on sky news that at petrovs "insistence" the game with chelsea will go ahead, if anyone in authority even considered doing so it would be ridiculous.

Having been a cancer patient for over 5 years and a regular customer for surgery and chemotherapy throughout this time I can't think of anything worse for Petrov and his friends/family than an outpouring of pseudo-grief/sympathy from the public and another media takeover of a celebrity's medical "condition". This won't help; he needs prompt treatment (assuming it's treatable) and ongoing support from those close to him until, hopefully, the cancer is irradicated or stabilised - the rest of this crap is nonsensical and unhelpful.
Bushy - how's your dad coming along?
 




Jul 5, 2003
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Bristol
Totally agree.

Has there been any mention of any "tribute" at the game today? If there is a round of applause will you join in?

My stance will be to briefly clap to show my agreement with the sentiment that we all wish him the best but that's where it stops.

Sad news.
But, any kind of mention of it today would be very odd indeed.
 


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Having been a cancer patient for over 5 years and a regular customer for surgery and chemotherapy throughout this time I can't think of anything worse for Petrov and his friends/family than an outpouring of pseudo-grief/sympathy from the public and another media takeover of a celebrity's medical "condition". This won't help; he needs prompt treatment (assuming it's treatable) and ongoing support from those close to him until, hopefully, the cancer is irradicated or stabilised - the rest of this crap is nonsensical and unhelpful.
Bushy - how's your dad coming along?

He seems to be coming along well mate, he hasnt lost his hair and the chemo isnt making him nauseous, the only problem is a swollen lymph node causing him pain when he walks.
 


pigbite

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Sep 9, 2007
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Sad news.
But, any kind of mention of it today would be very odd indeed.

It would be odd but nowadays society has to get into collective sackcloth and ashes, rip our garments and beat our heads in a group outpouring of grief and emotion when a someone in the spotlight grazes their knee.

Odd but not out of the question (sadly)
 








Big Jim

Big Jim
Feb 19, 2007
786
Petrovs cancer is in remission. Good news

It's good news, but only the first step. Unfortunately remission doesn't mean cured (it just means there's no traceable cancer on the marrow film).
There are almost certainly (if not definately) still cancer cells in his body and if left untreated it would almost certainly come back, probably in a few months. I presume he'll need another induction chemo (that he's already been through once). then 2 courses of consolodation chemo. All of which mean he will go weeks without an immune system and could easily be killed by an infection or virus.

then, once he's had that, you just have to hope the cancer doesn't return. With AML (if he has AML) it has a very nasty habit of doing just that. Then the Chemo has side affects also of course which can lead to a secondary Cancer.

Poor bloke. Young, captain of a great football club, father of young kids, then one day bang his life changes for ever. Feel very sorry for him.

Some back room staff are doing a bike ride for Leukaemia and Lymphoma research. Alex Butler is one of them and is a lovely chap. [MENTION=13072]BigAl2881[/MENTION] on twitter
 




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