Iggle Piggle
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darkwolf666
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Yes I saw it when it was broadcast and he clarifies we don't know about infection, he was only talking about deaths...
I've watched it back to check to see what he said .. So as I said, how many people have teenagers passed the virus onto, as the eminent analyst admitted he didn't know!
Iggle Piggle
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He was very clear about what he did and didn't know - and refreshingly numbers driven as opposed to politically driven - but I thought his presentation of those numbers provided insight over and above the usual hyperbole as well as highlighting the holes.
- 1% of the total people over 90 in the UK have died of Corona virus. That is an absolutely staggering number (and, as he points out, a risk 10,000 times greater to the virus than someone under the age of 25)
- Just 2 deaths under the age of 15 (and he does point out that of course they can spread it). This is an equally staggeringly low number.
In time, when we've stopped arguing about slogans, it's clear there is a need for some sort of risk based approach. Personally, I don't think the public is ready for a differing approach across regions or age groups and we don't have enough information currently (as he said himself) but there is a argument to be had in future if the vulnerably can be protected and the evidence supports it.
darkwolf666
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Yes, I thought he was very good.
I guess I am in an unusual situation where we are of an age that would start to be in the risk areas, at 59&60, and my wife is very vulnerable, but have a 3 year old starting school in September. Hence my concerns regards the infection risks...!
Iggle Piggle
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I guess, therein lies the problem of one size fits all solutions. Kids going back to school is low risk if you are in your 40s and staying away from over 75s but how do you do it if in your case where your wife is vulnerable? No easy answers obviously as if the schools open you have the unenviable choice of protecting your wife or your youngest missing thier 1st term.
Personally, I'd like to see the government using the data to try and make the right decisions instead of trying to make the right political one which will end in tears.
beorhthelm
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none apparently, as incredible as it sounds, no reported case of a child passing the infection on, when going through contract tracing.
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Also in France: proper f**king regulations.
https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1259909626918813696?s=20
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Can he play left back?
darkwolf666
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What, no child has passed the virus on to anyone? Is that right, send the little buggers back then!
darkwolf666
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Yes, it is a very difficult situation. The only upside, if there is one is that he is a non verbal, non understanding child with autism, so I am not entirely convinced missing some schooling will have as dramatic effect as some children.
It is more than possible, as a summer child he may be able to start reception next year and be the oldest in his year rather than the youngest and miss no schooling time
He spent 3 minutes explaining alerts, and how they will drive decision making. He then mentioned the slogan once. As I have noted elsewhere, the slogan was surely an error, something invented by an aid who misunderstood a conversation, and the slogan was then approved without due consideration by a careless executive.
Boris has contradicted himself on other issues today.
I fear the captain is now an empty suit.
Boris has contradicted himself on other issues today.
I fear the captain is now an empty suit.
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It is funny how a simple mistake can be blown out of all proportion when you throw in a good dose of senior level incompetence.
I must tell you one day, how I ended up inheriting offshore development teams in both Serbia and Siberia (true story !)
It is funny how a simple mistake can be blown out of all proportion when you throw in a good dose of incompetence.
I must tell you one day, how I ended up inheriting offshore development teams in both Serbia and Siberia (true story !)
I think we have both hit the nail on the head here.
Klaas
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ffs, I don't know what it is about the distracted boyfriend meme but it makes me laugh EVERY TIME. Still!
clapham_gull
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Where did you read this?
It's not as conclusive as that........it's how one study (based on contact tracing in China) was reported
https://fullfact.org/health/children-transmitting-coronavirus/
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