[Politics] Starmer v Sunak *** Official Match Thread ***

[HangletonGull]

Half time only 1-0 don’t know how

 

[Hugo Rune]

The issue for the Tories will be when this debate doesn’t turn the dial in the polls. That’s the moment they’ll realise most of them are history.

 

[Eeyore]

'Gentleman please', I think they should have had someone like Nigel Owens the rugby referee holding it.

'Mr Sunak- ENOUGH'

 

[London Irish]

 

[Bodian]

I’ve not lived in the UK for years and don’t know all that much (or really care that much) about the current problems over there.

But I’m watching this, and all I can think of is that this is such a poor format for a debate. Short time constraints for questions that need much more to provide complex and nuanced responses and rebuttals.

This is just this weeks newspaper headline generator.

Very much this. And for Starmer's 45 seconds, much of it is Sunak interrupting and talking over him.

 

[Seagull27]

Starmer being too respectful, letting Sunak shout over him without doing the same back. His points are getting drowned out.

The ref is appalling, lost control in the first minute and not getting it back.

 

[pb21]

But I’m watching this, and all I can think of is that this is such a poor format for a debate.

My main thought too.

Starmer not being able/allowed to get going and Sunak coming across as more obnoxious than I had previously thought too.

 

[Napper]

First half starmer easily .
Second half a draw

Sunak was bang in trouble those first 15 . He’s got it back a bit

 

[The Colonel]

Sunak is up for this and not afraid to get stuck in. Good performance to be fair to the blues.

 

[Hugo Rune]

This is dreadful.
If I’d been convicted of a crime whilst being defended by Kier I would be looking to appeal right now. As for Rushi what is there to like bar his slightly better debating skills. Can’t believe these are the best candidate for the main 2 parties in this country.

The judge doesn’t let people talk over each other unlike the presenter here. A big disadvantage for Starmer who is way out of his courtroom comfort zone. Rishi has been schooled in public school debating societies where it’s about interrupting and keeping your cool.

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

If I hear about Starmers dad being a toolmaker one more time I shall put my foot through the TV.

 

[Seagull]

Sunak is a sad little weasel with no values or principles, desperate

 

[Is it PotG?]

Starmer spends his 45 seconds telling his life story and slating the past.
What he WOULD do is a total mystery.

 

[Zeus]

Neither coming out of this well at all. Confirming it really is like a choice between picking whether to contract HIV or Ebola. Amazingly would say Sunak probably landing the bigger blows and Starmer failing to defend them. Taxing pensioners going to go down like a lead balloon and Starmer not denying it.

 

[Eeyore]

If I hear about Starmers dad being a toolmaker one more time I shall put my foot through the TV.

Poor TV, hope it enjoys it's last twenty minutes.

 

[Jim in the West]

I guess Sunak’s experience in these sort of things counts for something. I’d expect Starmer to be much better in the next one.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Again, Starmer has NO plans

 

[hart's shirt]

I've got a feeling that the ref might soon have to do better than "a gentle reminder".

 

[A1X]

God this needs some form of live factchecking

 

[Weststander]

This is a fiery sideshow.

I’m more interested in the Labour manifesto. Please let it contain specifics, shirley it must do because on 5 July they’ve got to actually start running things their way.