Weststander
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My Dad’s 85 and just about gets along with a basic non-smart mobile, with lots of cock ups, my 83 year old Mum would loath one.
People need to show a bit of tolerance here.
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[Albion] Stadium Access Cards 23/24
- Thread starter pure_white
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People need to show a bit of tolerance here.
Sheebo
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- Jul 13, 2003
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Yeh sorry that post seemed to hit a nerve and genuinely make me angry. Peoples lack of understanding & jumping to the complete wrong conclusions behind a keyboard are hugely annoying though. So easy to just be throw away judgemental. Maybe I’m over protective of my parents as they’re getting older. But still, genuinely still pissed off now with that post. Oh well, bedtime and chill
Sheebo
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- Jul 13, 2003
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Glad it wasn’t just me who was taken aback by that bizarre postWOW!!
“Taking the piss”You make it sound like it’s compulsory for an OAP to own one.
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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a lot of arrogance from many insisting everyone has suitable smart phone. apart from the fact many simply dont need or want one for day to day life, you have to have fairly recent one to run the apps.
- Jun 27, 2012
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Welk here's definitely some disengenuous stuff on this thread from those that like to stir it or kick up a fuss. But Smartphone ownership is now pretty universal except in small groups, especially the old - but even there its stereotypical to argue that they too don't own and use smartphones in very high numbers. And this is not the whole population, this is the subset that can afford a yearly season ticket that costs hundreds or even thousands of pounds. Of course - some are still phone resistant and have every right to do so including my father (he's 86) and @sheebo s Dad and I agree that the £20 fee is steep. Agree some don't want them but Not sure you're right you don't need a phone for day to day life these days. Like it or not, you sadly do to get a job, pay bills, benefits, travel etc etc. its increasingly hard to not have the mobile internet, QR codes etc in your life although there are some low cost alternatives to expensive monthly subscriptions and the club have rightly tried to educate fans about this. .
Anyway if you accompany your Dad or your kid etc to the Albion and they don't have a phone. For the most part It doesn't matter because you can just load their ticket onto your phone instead. Hence - no £20. .
Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo
I believe in Joe Hendry
- Oct 4, 2003
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You can use Apple Pay on an 8 year old iphone which in phone tech terms is pre-historic. I wouldn't recommend it for anything else, but there are plenty of older models available dirt cheap that could be used just for football tickets and left switched off the rest of the time.
Absolute nonsense. There you go again. You do NOT need a smartphone to pay bills. You do NOT need a smartphone to get a job. You do NOT need a smartphone to "travel".
I have a smartphone and have never used it to pay a bill, travel, get a job and I have never scanned a QR code in my life. Your arrogance is at times breathtaking. Now and then take a step back and think about how the club's decisions impact on others (like Sheebo's old man) rather than just blindly regurgitating the club's line on absolutely everything.
I can understand if you said his age and condition meant he was unable to use a mobile but why you would declare it is 'admirably' is a bit weird almost like you see it as a badge of honour. What exactly do you or he have against being able to communicate with others?
- Jun 27, 2012
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I've said i disagree with the clubs fee, i've said cos i've a similar Dad that i sympathise with @sheebo and the right of his Dad like mine to resist phone ownership , i've tried to argue that its increasingly difficult to do most things - eg: go to football matches - without the mobile internet / QR codes , and i've said that its worth acknowledging that phone ownership is universal especially amongst those can afford season tickets at a Premier League club. (it is). I'm sure you can do all these things without access to the mobile internet but these days job searching, bill paying, connecting with people is really hard without having internet access - which for most people these days is via mobile devices. I spent hours with my Dad last year - resetting his Albion account, sending emails to the club, finding his ID (his bus pass) , and having multiple chats with supporter services to enable him to have a physical ticket. So i think i have stood back and thought about this and the affect it might have on others.
TBF he said 'increasingly hard'. I parked in a car park last week where the ONLY way to pay was via an App. It's only going to get worse.
hoveboyslim
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They did. Some people just want to have something to complain about.
Not true. I use a 6 year old Android phone for my season ticket. Same model goes for less than £20 on eBay. Don't even have a sim card in mine. Only app you need to run is the wallet which is a core part of Android or iOS so don't even need to install it.
They probably have to charge just to stop freaks like me who'd rather have the card, because they like having it in their wallet!
smart phone not for me, I do use a mobile phone a very simple Nokia which does phone calls and texts. Cost very low and holds charge for nearly a week.
I have the plastic card and see no reason why my current card can not be used for next season. when we all had plastic tickets they were used in consecutive seasons.
I have the plastic card and see no reason why my current card can not be used for next season. when we all had plastic tickets they were used in consecutive seasons.
Neville's Breakfast
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Do you live in a religious community ?
It is personal choice, yes. That’s fine. But the club doesn’t have to cater for every personal choice.
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pure_white
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- Dec 8, 2021
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Chaileyjem is correct the country seems to be moving more digital. I dont get a programme often but when i do i need stick my card in the machine yet like elsewhere there is assumption im going to tap it. No way. I had a new bank card think was my American Express one and I ended up paying for someone elses shopping as scanned my card near tills. It can happen. I got my money back but thats not the point. I could easily have missed it on a bank statement especially if I only received online as in paper format Im more inclined to check it.
Country went all panic with Covid and never returned to cash. The other day the pub barlady said "oh cash, do we still take cash" thankfully they did or they were tipping a good couple of pints away. Going back to mobile phones yeah the world did function before these things existed and we had football too.
Country went all panic with Covid and never returned to cash. The other day the pub barlady said "oh cash, do we still take cash" thankfully they did or they were tipping a good couple of pints away. Going back to mobile phones yeah the world did function before these things existed and we had football too.
Neville's Breakfast
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I don’t think it’s anything to do with tolerance. It’s when people think their particular life choice must be catered for by the club that people question.
pure_white
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- Dec 8, 2021
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What about equality diversity and inclusion? Shall we ditch that then?
This is they key point really - standardisation suits the club from an admin perspective (including longer term if they want to upgrade turnstiles, use e-ticketing for away games etc etc) so they are trying to nudge everyone over to it and the very vast majority of STHs are probably already there. Having another option for a modest charge (which they flagged a year ago so it shouldn’t be a surprise) is still offered so there’s no real drama here is there ?