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Sorry but we need a more experienced keeper..



jrmeag1

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Sep 22, 2008
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Plainly obvious, we are spending all this money on out field players, yes he's a good keeper, but Sully has not got enough experience. Did'nt get anywhere near to any of the shots that went in, Kippers not 100 % convinced by.
 




fleet

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Jul 28, 2003
12,249
I am convinced by Kuipers and he should, indeed MUST, be selected. Sullivan is a good prospect, but an experienced keeper must be in place.
 


Acker79

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Nov 15, 2008
31,921
Brighton
I don't think Kuipers has been up to his usual form this season from what I've seen, and from the other games that I listened to. Though, I imagine his problem is the same as the problems that Sully has a lot of the time: they are left exposed by a poor defence.

How can sully get experience if we don't play him because he's not experienced?

I'd say so far this season they've been pretty close, with both being let down by the defensive failures of our outfield team.
 




BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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Haywards Heath
I perceived a lack of communication between Sully and the back-line last night.

More than once, the ball was played over the top and there was no end of uncertainty as to whose ball it was.

This showed on the first goal Sullivan looked as if he was coming for it but didnt and was caught dithering between coming or not. Had he made a committed decision either would possibly have been right but as it was he was stranded, although it was a good header.
 








Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,981
Surrey
Just a question like, but how do you make an inexperienced keeper, experienced ? without actually playing him at a higher level than the reserves.
Good point, and I'd say it was the art of good management, judging which games to play your inexperienced keeper in order to give him that exposure. The other fact is that it's much harder for a keeper to come through when he's in behind a shaky, unsettled back 4. And that really is THICKY's fault isn't it.
 




Barry Izbak

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Dec 7, 2005
7,427
Lancing By Sea
I like Sullivan.

But let's get FDM back in there and play our strongest line up on Saturday.
 


strings

Moving further North...
Feb 19, 2006
9,969
Barnsley
I wouldn't play Kuipers until he has has a full reserve/training game in goal.

This may have already happened - I don't know. But, I do not think it is wise to throw a player straight back into the team after 2 months out, regardless of the position they play.
 


Acker79

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Good point, and I'd say it was the art of good management, judging which games to play your inexperienced keeper in order to give him that exposure.

But how much will a player develop and learn if you only play him in games where he's not going to be challenged?
 








Horton's halftime iceberg

Blooming Marvellous
Jan 9, 2005
16,491
Brighton
I wouldn't play Kuipers until he has has a full reserve/training game in goal.

This may have already happened - I don't know. But, I do not think it is wise to throw a player straight back into the team after 2 months out, regardless of the position they play.

Reserve game tonight, I imagine Kuipers will be selected ahead of Pelling.

We have an expereinced keeper, and are gaining another. I think the defense has a lot more to blame for the goals conceded by John the past few weeks.
 




algie

The moaning of life
Jan 8, 2006
14,713
In rehab
Reserve game tonight, I imagine Kuipers will be selected ahead of Pelling.

We have an expereinced keeper, and are gaining another. I think the defense has a lot more to blame for the goals conceded by John the past few weeks.


Experienced

Defence
 






supaseagull

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Feb 19, 2004
9,614
The United Kingdom of Mile Oak
Oh my god - one poor game and you've resigned him to the reserves for the rest of the season...Believe it or not, sometimes goalkeepers have bad games as well.

Til last night, Sullivan has hadrly put a foot wrong since coming in for Kuipers before Xmas and whilst I like Kuipers, Sullivan doesn't deserve to be dropped just because of one average performance. FFS if that was the case, then I can name a few other players who should be dropped ahead of him!
 




strings

Moving further North...
Feb 19, 2006
9,969
Barnsley
Oh my god - one poor game and you've resigned him to the reserves for the rest of the season...Believe it or not, sometimes goalkeepers have bad games as well.

Til last night, Sullivan has hadrly put a foot wrong since coming in for Kuipers before Xmas and whilst I like Kuipers, Sullivan doesn't deserve to be dropped just because of one average performance. FFS if that was the case, then I can name a few other players who should be dropped ahead of him!

These are my sentiments too.

Reserve game tonight, I imagine Kuipers will be selected ahead of Pelling.

Reserve game off - waterlogged pitch at the Dripping Pan.
 


TWOCHOICEStom

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Sep 22, 2007
10,917
Brighton
How can sully get experience if we don't play him because he's not experienced?

we can't keep playing his just so he get's "experienced" if it's detrimental to the team.

But how much will a player develop and learn if you only play him in games where he's not going to be challenged?

EVERY game is a challenge for a keeper. It's not like he could walk out against Cheltenham and think he'll have a quiet day!

Sullivan doesn't deserve to be dropped just because of one average performance.

But it hasn't been one though. His distribution has been consistently awful, he's a great shotstopper, pretty good in the air but often fails to command his area and communitcation with his defence has been very dubious on a number of occasions..

I like the bloke, I think he'll do well. But all the time we've got a keeper like Kuipers at the club, who's been there, done it and got the t-shirt.. I think he should be between the sticks.. He commands his area, alright his kicking isn't fabulous, but I think he's prone to less errors and would give the defence a bit more confidence in itself which it BADLY needs at the moment. How many indecisive moments have we seen in recent games between Elphick/Sullivan.. too many.
 


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