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HellBilly
Feb 23, 2009
24,720
Brighton factually.....
Just when will the EU Bullshit end............ :facepalm:


Somali woman in London wins EU case to claim benefits

Two of Mrs Ibrahim's four children go to school in Harrow
A Somali woman with children in London schools has won a test case to claim benefits even if she is "a burden on the social assistance system".

Nimco Hassan Ibrahim took her case to the European Court of Justice when she was turned down for housing benefit by Harrow Council in north-west London.

The judges ruled that a parent with children "in education in the host member state has a right of residence".

The judges added that Mrs Ibrahim's right is "not conditional".

The judges ruled: "A parent caring for the child of a migrant worker who is in education in the host Member State has a right of residence in that State.

"That right is not conditional on the parent having sufficient resources not to become a burden on the social assistance system."

'Never self-sufficient'

Mrs Ibrahim married her husband, who is a Danish citizen, in Ethiopia and moved to London to join her husband - named in court as Mr Yusuf - in 2003.

He worked for five months before claiming incapacity benefits but when the benefits were stopped in 2004 he moved to Denmark.

His wife and four children, all Danish nationals, remained in Harrow in temporary accommodation and two of her children attend state schools in the borough.

Mrs Ibrahim, who is separated from her husband, "was never self-sufficient, and depends entirely on social assistance," the court heard.

"She does not have comprehensive sickness insurance cover and relies on the National Health Service," the judgment added.

'Floodgates issue'

Her initial plea for housing assistance was rejected on the ground that only people with a right of residence under European Union (EU) law could apply, and neither she not Mr Yusuf were at the time considered a resident in the UK under EU law.

But the Luxembourg court said parents caring for the children of migrant workers, and resident in EU countries are covered under EU rules on freedom of movement, including those who cannot support themselves.

Harrow Council said it will study the implications of the ruling.

Councillor Barry Macleod-Cullinane said: "We have a floodgates issue.

"It has set a legal precedent that people who have not contributed to the country's benefit systems can now actually qualify to get benefits when their children are in schools, so it opens the doors for more migrants to come in to the country."

I just dont get it, I will not vote BNP or UKIP there not the answer and its a wasted vote, But things like this are surely wrong. Just what can be done, Does anyone care. It just seems unfair.................. :shrug:

People had a pop at me on a thread i started about two weeks ago about me inquiring about my situation regarding benefits IF things got desperate, and i have not claimed or been helped out since i left school 25 years ago...............:shrug:

I dont get it............... :shrug:

am i wrong / right / uncaring / ............ :shrug:
 










Be careful, this might be seen as stiring up racial hatred. I was banned for posting a thread regarding A JFS that was eventually found guilty in The Supreme Court, of Racial discrimination. NSC is not the right place to discuss such matters. Try phoning George Galloway at Talksport on friday or Saturday night as I'm sure he'll gladly talk to you about it but he'll probably brand you as a racist
 






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HellBilly
Feb 23, 2009
24,720
Brighton factually.....
Be careful, this might be seen as stiring up racial hatred. I was banned for posting a thread regarding A JFS that was eventually found guilty in The Supreme Court, of Racial discrimination. NSC is not the right place to discuss such matters. Try phoning George Galloway at Talksport on friday or Saturday night as I'm sure he'll gladly talk to you about it but he'll probably brand you as a racist


Point taken, I have stated in the thread that the BNP etc are not the answer. Its a matter of unfairness and the EU dictating how we run our country and other counties would just ignore the EU, yet we bend over backwards and get shafted all the feckin time. :shrug:
 


Curious Orange

Punxsatawney Phil
Jul 5, 2003
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On NSC for over two decades...
Be careful, this might be seen as stiring up racial hatred. I was banned for posting a thread regarding A JFS that was eventually found guilty in The Supreme Court, of Racial discrimination. NSC is not the right place to discuss such matters. Try phoning George Galloway at Talksport on friday or Saturday night as I'm sure he'll gladly talk to you about it but he'll probably brand you as a racist

Erm, this is a thread about benefits, not about anything else. Having re-read the article, it seems that ruling means that non-EU nationals can now claim state benefits in EU countries provided they have children in school at that country who are also the children of someone who is an EU national - presumably the rational is that the children are EU nationals and therefore would be the beneficiary of those benefits (provided they live with the parent getting the benefit). I suppose the question to ask is whether the benefits can be stopped once the children have left school - if they do then I don't have too much of a problem with it.
 




wellquickwoody

Many More Voting Years
NSC Patron
Aug 10, 2007
13,989
Melbourne
Despite what I said before Billy, in this case you are quite rightly questioning this ruling. It is f**king ridiculous. It doesn't matter which way any of us leans politically, what we all need to understand is that this country will continue it's frightening slide to second class nationhood until we wise up and stop handing out money to just about anybody who asks for it. If you or I give all our money to charitable causes at the end of it we have no money and therefore we become the charity case.
 


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HellBilly
Feb 23, 2009
24,720
Brighton factually.....
There are further implications regarding the issue of false marriages which are on the increase, and maybe you could read more into the above story regarding this............. :shrug:

where would this all end........ :shrug:
 


bhaexpress

New member
Jul 7, 2003
27,627
Kent
Interesting the the EU should take that stand, I wonder how well the request for benefits would be recieved in countries like Fance and Germany ?
 






Dr Q

Well-known member
Jul 29, 2004
1,860
Cobbydale
F**king makes me sick. I'm currently a person down on my staff, as our HR dept made a slight c*ck up on an American lass's visa extension and shes been threatened with deportation. We've had to suspend her and are jumping through as many hoops as the Border Agency can make usuntil its decided whether she can stay (and its not a dead cert either). Shes got a great job, bought a house, contributes taxes to this country and is no burden, yet is being treated like this. And then we have evidence of this family, who quite frankly are F**k all use to the country, sponging of the state.

And people wonder why the BNP et al thrive.

Rant over!
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,165
This is not the EU taking a stand on anything, it is a verdict from the European Court of Justice.

same thing, European institution overruling a member state. its all gone too far.

im not even sure the fact the father is Danish is an issue, it seems to me if you can get into the country and kids into a school, you effectily have indefinate leave to remain. If the father was a signifcant part of the story, why cant they be sent to Denmark?

i know someone from Aus, his wife cant get a visa extension so they will have to leave their jobs and return down under, despite family connections here. but get off a boat and evade the so called boarder agency long enough and youre good.
 




m20gull

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Jun 10, 2004
3,498
Land of the Chavs
I'm not sure I see the problem. The children are all EU nationals and entitled to be here. All they are getting is a benefit for their natural mother to stay and care for them. Presumably it would be even more expensive if they were completely cared for by the state.

Much as you might prefer the children to be sent to Denmark or Ethiopia I can't see how you could force it to happen.
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,165
I'm not sure I see the problem. The children are all EU nationals and entitled to be here.

ah... fair point. so whey dont they insist on the father having custody? forget marrige for a "green card", get pregnant seems the outcome of this.
 


Bevendean Hillbilly

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Sep 4, 2006
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Nestling in green nowhere
She did'nt make the rules and has kept ahead of the Border Agency long enough to get a case in.

If I was from Ethiopia and someone in the West was going to house and feed me and my kids for free I'd probably do the same thing.
 


User removed 4

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May 9, 2008
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I'm not sure I see the problem.
Then you must be educationally sub normal you f***ing clown, but i suspect thats not the case and you DO see the problem, i'm just completely baffled as to why you or anybody would argue that this is morally right or indeed makes good fiscal sense, as woody said , keep handing out our money until we have none left and we become the charity cases, you can spout mealy mouthed bollocks about the children being EU nationals or hide behind arcane laws all you like, this country is rapidly becoming just like the third world shitholes these people seek to escape from.
 


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