Sol

[ditchy]

So whats up with Sol Campbell ? is he comming out ?

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

I wish the sun was coming out.

 

[HampshireSeagulls]

He's got something on his mind, he hasn't been playing well for the last few games. Perhaps a Mark Oaten-esque outing this weekend? There seems to be something going on, I daresay the NotW will have their undercover sheik on standby.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/4676360.stm

 

[Lokki 7]

"Anyone fancy a Sol Campbell after work?"

Meaning to have one half then shoot off home.

 

[Del Boy]

"Anyone fancy a Sol Campbell after work?"

Meaning to have one half then shoot off home.

Like it!!

 

[Jim D]

And no doubt after that we'll have the full story (as decided by the NOTW) on Beckham, Lampard, Ferdinand, Terry, Ashley Cole, Joe Cole, Rooney, Gerrard and anyone else that gets into contention for a World Cup place.

Don't you just love the freedom of the press?

 

[Superseagull]

I wonder if Sven said something to the fake Sheik about Sol that might end up in this weekends NOTW

 

[robbied69]

Rumour has it, is that he has had himself sectioned. Hence why he is already ruled out for Sat's game.

 

[HampshireSeagulls]

Rumour has it, is that he has had himself sectioned. Hence why he is already ruled out for Sat's game.

Sectioned?! Do you have a gen source for this?

 

[robbied69]

Sectioned?! Do you have a gen source for this?

I only said rumour. One of my friends is very good mates with an Arsenal youth player.

Take it how you want to. It would explain why he's been very poor recently.

 

[BensGrandad]

That probably stems from the remark that Arsene Wenger made on TV that he has mental problems. I took that to mean that he had problems coming to terms with his run of injuries and it was in his mind that he woul get injured again etc.

 

[Simster]

I've just used that in the office. I think the general concensus is that it is a Quality expression!

 

[Stat Brother]

Rumour has it, is that he has had himself sectioned. Hence why he is already ruled out for Sat's game.

That really is very funny. I can see it all now.
8:30 pm, Tuesday evening, North London.
I know I'll take myself off to the nearest institution, knock on the door, & section myself.

Sorry to burst the rumour, but it doesn't quite work like that.
If (& that's a BIG if) Sol is clinically depressed, I doubt he will have enough about himself to be able to trot off & seek advise.
If it's serious enough, the people around him would have to work with him & places like The Priory before finally admitting himself for an amount of weeks of treatment.
Not popping in after 45 mins of football.

 

[HampshireSeagulls]

That really is very funny. I can see it all now.
8:30 pm, Tuesday evening, North London.
I know I'll take myself off to the nearest institution, knock on the door, & section myself.

Sorry to burst the rumour, but it doesn't quite work like that.
If (& that's a BIG if) Sol is clinically depressed, I doubt he will have enough about himself to be able to trot off & seek advise.
If it's serious enough, the people around him would have to work with him & places like The Priory before finally admitting himself for an amount of weeks of treatment.
Not popping in after 45 mins of football.

However, it can be done on a walk-in basis (Frank Bruno and others have done this, my wife deals with people who use this method of escaping when things become too much). If he is suffering with mental problems, then the club may well step in and help him rather than wait for him to do it himself.

 

[Seagull's Return]

Can you section yourself? I know you can have yourself admitted for psychiatric help, among other things, but I thought that sectioning was a means of imposing treatment on someone who hasn't asked for it? (Genuine question, by the way, rather than smart-arse disagreement)

 

[Dandyman]

Can you section yourself? I know you can have yourself admitted for psychiatric help, among other things, but I thought that sectioning was a means of imposing treatment on someone who hasn't asked for it? (Genuine question, by the way, rather than smart-arse disagreement)

Q&A: Mental health 'sectioning'


The Mental Health Act, which was introduced in 1983, is intended to help doctors deal with patients who may have a psychiatric disorder.
Under the Act, patients can be sectioned or detained against their will and given treatment.

BBC News Online examines these powers and what they mean for patients.

Who can be 'sectioned' under the Mental Health Act 1983?

People with different types of defined "mental disorder" can be admitted to hospital against their will under the Act.

These include those with "severe mental impairment", "psychopathic disorder" or "mental illness".

What happens during the sectioning process?

A patient can be sectioned if they are perceived to be a threat to themselves or other people.

Generally, a patient can only be sectioned if two doctors and a social worker or a close relative of the patient believe it is necessary.

One of these doctors is usually a psychiatrist. The other is often a doctor who knows the patient well.

However, in an emergency one doctor's recommendation may be sufficient.

An approved social worker also has to be involved in the assessment, and has to agree that being sectioned is the best course of action for that patient.

The social worker then makes the application for a place in secure accommodation for the patient.

Sectioning a patient enables doctors to assess the extent of the patient's mental disorder and, if necessary, to administer treatment.

How long can patients be detained?

If a patient is sectioned as an emergency case, then they are said to be detained under section 4 of the Mental Health Act.

This enables doctors to detain them for up to 72 hours.

If doctors believe that further assessment or treatment is necessary then the patient can be detained under section 2 of the Act.

This means that they can be admitted to hospital and detained for up to 28 days to undergo a full psychiatric assessment.

At the end of the 28-day period, if the medical recommendation is for the patient's stay in hospital to be extended, a further six months can be given under section 3 of the Act.

A patient can be discharged from hospital at any time if doctors believe they are no longer a threat to themselves or anyone else.

What rights does the patient have during this time?

Some treatments can be given to people detained under various sections of the Act, even without their consent.

This is possible if the treatment is believed absolutely necessary to prevent the patient's condition deteriorating while they are in hospital.

Some more powerful treatments and operations, however, require an additional court order under the Act.

These include any operations which destroy brain tissue or aim to stop parts of the brain functioning - such as a lobotomy - and the surgical implantation of sex hormones in order to reduce the male sex drive.

Can a patient or his or her relative appeal against detention?

Every patient should have a named "responsible medical officer" who has a duty to keep an eye on progress.

In addition, the patient themselves can appeal for release to the NHS trust which is detaining them.

The "nearest relative" also has a right to "order the discharge" of a patient.

However, doctors can block this by producing evidence that the patient still represents a risk to the public or him or herself.

If this happens, the relative cannot try again for another six months.

Finally, there is a right of appeal to the Mental Health Review Tribunal, which can order discharge after a formal tribunal hearing.

However, there have been frequent complaints that this process is extremely slow-moving.

How often are these powers used?

Between 1989 and 1990, 16,300 were given compulsory treatment against their will.

In 2000/2001, 26,707 were formally admitted against their will, in addition to 19,570 who went voluntarily to hospital in the first instance but who were then sectioned.

 

[Simster]

 

[Stat Brother]

However, it can be done on a walk-in basis (Frank Bruno and others have done this, my wife deals with people who use this method of escaping when things become too much). If he is suffering with mental problems, then the club may well step in and help him rather than wait for him to do it himself.

Kind of the point i was nearly making.
Waiting for anyone to be low enough to seek help is just dangerous. These are the people that become 'sectioned' by a Dr, by vertue of the fact they are a danger to themselves & or others.
A persons family/friends/employers, would have some kind of structure to facilitate help, not send them out to play football then pack him off @ half time to talk about it.

 

[Gazwag]

One of my friends is very good mates with an Arsenal youth player.

Now lets get our priorities straight - is he a striker, is he any good, does he was a bit of experience for a couple of quid a week, if so get him on that train to Withdean

(The Arsenal youth player btw not your friend)

 

[robbied69]

That really is very funny. I can see it all now.
8:30 pm, Tuesday evening, North London.
I know I'll take myself off to the nearest institution, knock on the door, & section myself.

I doubt he took himself off. If you saw the game he was absolutely dire. More like Wenger took himself off and he decided to have a good look in the mirror.