So this is where the free market has got us.

[Dave the OAP]

I'm looking forward to the collapse of global capitalism.

I,m NOT

Who is going to pay everyone's pension when it goes then?

 

[withdeanwombat]

I,m NOT

Who is going to pay everyone's pension when it goes then?

One candidate seems to be the Socialist republic of the USA.

 

[User removed 4]

Sorry but you obviously haven't a clue what you talking about. Before you consider reposting do some research on the city of london pre big bang and how it's changed in the twenty years since. You have such a rose tinted view of the Iron Lady that you can't accept that some of what is happening now is a direct consequence of the reforms implemented by the conservative governments in the 1980's. It's not prejudice, it's fact.

sorry but i do know what im talking about, SHOW ME THE FACTS.

 

[Rusthall Seagull]

it wouldnt need it, a couple of sentences would do, or were you just spouting the usual anti thatcher bile with no hard facts to back it up ?

Thatcher was scum

 

[User removed 4]

Thatcher was scum

she spoke well of you though

 

[Rusthall Seagull]

she spoke well of you though

I actually met her once....her breath smelt

 

[Tom Bombadil]

sorry but i do know what im talking about, SHOW ME THE FACTS.

I tell you what as you know what you are talking about why don't you explain why the following three Thacherite policies have not contributed to the financial turmoil the UK is currently experiencing.

1) The right to buy council houses.
2) The deregulation of UK building societies
3) The deregulation of the UK financial markets.

 

[Buzzer]

he doesn't need to. Your assertion was that thatchers policies caused this mess. He asked how. You're going off on a tangent now and avoiding the question

 

[Gwylan]

he doesn't need to. Your assertion was that thatchers policies caused this mess. He asked how. You're going off on a tangent now and avoiding the question

er..that's not true. Voroshilov answered the question. It's surely up to Bushy to explain why he disagrees with Voroshilov's answers.

FWIW, I agree entirely with Voroshilov: while expanding house ownership and deregulation of markets have had some positive effects. The way that it was done leaves a lot to be desired. Mind you, Labour has been in power for 11 years now and if it wanted to fix things, it's had plenty of opportunity to do so.

 

[Buzzer]

sorry I must have missed his reply. He mentioned a parochial culture pre-thatcher but can't see anything specific. Can you highlight the bit where he answered please

 

[Tom Bombadil]

he doesn't need to. Your assertion was that thatchers policies caused this mess. He asked how. You're going off on a tangent now and avoiding the question

Oh good Thatcherite bully number 1 has arrived.

If you look back you will see a poster other than me suggested it was all Thatchers fault. This is of course not true but you can argue that the policies of her governments have hugely contributed to the current financial mess.

Larus then accused that poster of letting prejudice get in the way of fact. So i pointed out the Thatcher government deregulated the financial markets.Bushy, chip carefully balanced on each shoulder leapt out of the woodwork asking how. I gave a simple non-technical explanation of one of the ways the city had changed. Bushy has yet to offer one fact or argument to counter my statement, so I have given him three of the major reforms of the 80's to get his teeth into.

So in conclusion the ball's in his court.

 

[Buzzer]

Blimey. That was a bit out the blue. Where have I bullied anyone about thatcher? I've always gone on record here as stating I was never Thatcherite.

Bluster all you like and chuck the insults. It really helps your argument

 

[Tom Bombadil]

Blimey. That was a bit out the blue. Where have I bullied anyone about thatcher? I've always gone on record here as stating I was never Thatcherite.

Bluster all you like and chuck the insults. It really helps your argument

Look I'm frustated by the unwillingness of either yourself or Bushy to construct a counter argument whilst at the same time standing on the sidelines jeering about facts.
Can I ask do you disagree with the analysis that the conservative policies of the 1980's have adversely affected the UK's financial crisis?

 

[lighthouse]

If something has adversely affected a crisis, that must mean it has had a positive impact?

If you are saying that Thatchers time in office has had an impact on what is happening today, then of course it has. You could say that about every prime minister over the last 100 years. They have all played a role in the evolution of the British economy to where it is today. Thatcher more than most because she was around for longer than most.

Would it have been different today if she had never been prime minister? Of course it would, comrade scargill would never have allowed this crisis to happen!

Give me as much freedom of choice as possible please. The occasional downturn I can live with. Having others make my life choices for me; no thank you. Bless you Maggie.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

the current government are shot, they are completely rudderless

Same as every other capitalist country in the world then, due to the greed and stupidity of the US financial muppets

 

[chip]

I tell you what as you know what you are talking about why don't you explain why the following three Thacherite policies have not contributed to the financial turmoil the UK is currently experiencing.

1) The right to buy council houses.
2) The deregulation of UK building societies
3) The deregulation of the UK financial markets.

I love this argument. If they are obviously so bad, why didn't the current government change them? Was 11 years not long enough to forsee the consequences and take alternative measures, or did Brown actually believe that he really had put an end to boom and bust?