[Albion] So this happened to me today

[Iggle Piggle]

I can’t think of any bad trades people I’ve met recently, I do work on my own but sometimes other trades work in the same properties as I do.
I did work on building sites 20+ years back and most people seemed to get on with each other or minded their own business.

Most people who do stuff are great. People who fix stuff whether it's in trades or IT or whatever gets a sense of achievement out of doing it.

The talentless management layer above is where the wankers tend to live.

 

[WATFORD zero]

It's a horrible thing to happen, but you're right to call it out and right to back off when you did, complete wankers are thankfully rare.

We really shouldn't put up with this shit and if you're confident enough, push it. A lot of us aren't the size of @Muhammad - I’m hard - Bruce Lee but will still not put up with this. It's always happened and Mrs Wz has spent the last 30 years thinking I'm going to get stabbed, beaten to a pulp etc. But if this sort of shit, from teenagers shouting expletives around families to young physical bullies trying to intimidate old people (I'm 64) is allowed without being called out, it will continue.

I've had to back off, many times.

But address it, and back off as you did, don't just accept it

If I suddenly stop posting, it appears Mrs Wz was right

 

[PascalGroß Tips]

I hope you got his registration and reported him to Royal Mail.

Sadly not … and really annoyed that I didn’t think to take the reg

 

[GT49er]

That show rouge traders made the public distrust tradesmen in general.
I dare say there's more rouges in a lot of other industries

Rouge traders you say? How very Brighton (as perceived by some rival fans!)

 

[GoldstoneVintage]

That show rouge traders made the public distrust tradesmen in general.
I dare say there's more rouges in a lot of other industries

So true. I grew up thinking all mechanics were untrustworthy due to the general perception, when so far (touch wood) I've never had a bad experience. In fact, several mechanics over the years have really gone the extra mile for me and not one has ripped me off.

 

[TugWilson]

Worrying thing is that probably made the arsehole feel like a hero for the rest of the day , it amazes me how these bungalows manage to pass a driving test !

 

[Ike and Tina Burner]

I’m one of the nice ones

No doubt mate, most are. I'm a qualified tradesman, albeit one of the softie ones, so I wasn't punching down. I just think that because of the nature of trade work it's the only environment a certain type of twat can work in because they'd get sacked in any other industry. But they're not representative of the whole, that’s not what I meant

 

[Wardy's twin]

Turns out he's a sole trader, unfortunately.

arsehole trader by the sound of it

 

[Wardy's twin]

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That's awful and is similar to a situation I experienced this morning on a trip to Lewes.

I was walking with Mrs PGTips along a pedestrian area. Yes, there is a cobbled section down the middle that vehicles use - but we were on the pavement. A Royal Mail van came along and swung onto the pavement (there's no kerb) and was so unbelievably close to my wife she had to quickly step out of the way. The van pulled up right by me and so when he opened his door I said to him about being careful of pedestrians. I did not swear or raise my voice. He glared at me and said he'd indicated and we shouldn't have been walking on the road. Errr ... it's not actually a road and we were actually on the pavement section anyway. He asked what my problem was and I repeated he'd nearly taken my wife out. His reply ... word for word ... "If I had, she'd be splatted all over the floor'. I was abolutely shocked. I stood there and he then got close and towered over me asking if "I wanted something". He was a young chap around 30 ish (I'll be 63 next month) ... over 6ft I'd say compared to my 5' 7". Another older gent who'd heard what what was going on came over to check I was OK and guided me away. Driver then got some parcels out of his van and headed off. Trousers half way down his arse ... very scruffy. Very odd he was driving a Royal Mail van as he didn't look like a Royal Mail employee.

Basically, he was just a nasty bully. I hate nasty bullies

please report it to Royal Mail , they will probably do nothing but they need to know they have an idiot on the books

 

[Wardy's twin]

I've recently moved into a new flat in a block. Today I was getting everything delivered from the storage company. Moments before the van was due to arrive with my things, a contractor's van turned up to do some work on one of the flats, completely blocking the entrance to the driveway.

When he returned to the van to get some tools I *very politely* asked him if he could move his van (there was a massive space with plenty of room'). He said 'I'm not moving it', picked up his tools and walked past me back into the building without saying anything else.

As he passed me, I simply said 'So you're not going to move it then?'. At which point he flew into a blind rage, shouting in my face and physically threatening me multiple times saying how he was going to 'chew me up and spit me out' and how I should 'get back in my house'. I backed off, and eventually went inside as it was clear he intended to violently assault me.

I'm sure people have different ways of reacting to this kind of situation, but I am 61 years old. This guy was younger, bigger and stronger than me.

Thinking about it now, it seems incredible that someone should threaten the neighbour of someone they are doing work for in such a way.

His response was completely and utterly unprovoked. I did nothing wrong and was perfectly polite. Just a simple request to move his van.

Sorry to hear that. Had a similar incident where a driver could not wait as my car was being readied for towing. Came out and punched the tow guy, even though there was another route he could have taken. Reported to police and they did FA, personally think the guy should have gone to prison for 6 months.

 

[PascalGroß Tips]

p

please report it to Royal Mail , they will probably do nothing but they need to know they have an idiot on the books

I have just emailed details of the incident to Royal Mail with as much info as I could

 

[Bodian]

That's awful and is similar to a situation I experienced this morning on a trip to Lewes.

I was walking with Mrs PGTips along a pedestrian area. Yes, there is a cobbled section down the middle that vehicles use - but we were on the pavement. A Royal Mail van came along and swung onto the pavement (there's no kerb) and was so unbelievably close to my wife she had to quickly step out of the way. The van pulled up right by me and so when he opened his door I said to him about being careful of pedestrians. I did not swear or raise my voice. He glared at me and said he'd indicated and we shouldn't have been walking on the road. Errr ... it's not actually a road and we were actually on the pavement section anyway. He asked what my problem was and I repeated he'd nearly taken my wife out. His reply ... word for word ... "If I had, she'd be splatted all over the floor'. I was abolutely shocked. I stood there and he then got close and towered over me asking if "I wanted something". He was a young chap around 30 ish (I'll be 63 next month) ... over 6ft I'd say compared to my 5' 7". Another older gent who'd heard what what was going on came over to check I was OK and guided me away. Driver then got some parcels out of his van and headed off. Trousers half way down his arse ... very scruffy. Very odd he was driving a Royal Mail van as he didn't look like a Royal Mail employee.

Basically, he was just a nasty bully. I hate nasty bullies

I didn't get any post at all today - I guess our town's post was in here. Bit slippy out there this morning!

 

[Seagull58]

That show rouge traders made the public distrust tradesmen in general.
I dare say there's more rouges in a lot of other industries

Avoid the ones who wear make-up.

 

[portlock seagull]

That show rouge traders made the public distrust tradesmen in general.
I dare say there's more rouges in a lot of other industries

Indeed - Politics for example!

 

[Bozza]

Assume it didn’t have branding on the van?

Rent-a-****?

 

[kevo]

Which trade is he?

General handyman/builder I think.

 

[Brian Fantana]

I have just emailed details of the incident to Royal Mail with as much info as I could

I work for Royal Mail in head office. Ping me the details if you don't get any joy and I can try and direct things to the right place.

From your description of 'not looking like a Royal Mail employee', it's potentially one of the temps taken on over the peak period.

In any case, that's no excuse for the behaviour you experienced and it definitely needs to be followed up. The vast, vast majority of posties are excellent at their job and very caring for customer wellbeing. Incidents like this need to be thoroughly investigated to keep that ratio the way it is.

 

[Easy 10]

I was behind some bloke in a queue at the supermarket the other week with all his shopping on the belt, when he decided to slope off to get some MORE shopping while we all stood there waiting. I dumped all his stuff back in a basket and booted it under the till, inconsiderate sod.

Then whaddya know, the very same bloke was on the road on a mobility scooter in front of me, snailing along at about 4mph and totally ignoring my revving engine. I burned round him and gave him what for on the way past.

I can't stand time-bullies.

 

[osgood]

That's awful and is similar to a situation I experienced this morning on a trip to Lewes.

I was walking with Mrs PGTips along a pedestrian area. Yes, there is a cobbled section down the middle that vehicles use - but we were on the pavement. A Royal Mail van came along and swung onto the pavement (there's no kerb) and was so unbelievably close to my wife she had to quickly step out of the way. The van pulled up right by me and so when he opened his door I said to him about being careful of pedestrians. I did not swear or raise my voice. He glared at me and said he'd indicated and we shouldn't have been walking on the road. Errr ... it's not actually a road and we were actually on the pavement section anyway. He asked what my problem was and I repeated he'd nearly taken my wife out. His reply ... word for word ... "If I had, she'd be splatted all over the floor'. I was abolutely shocked. I stood there and he then got close and towered over me asking if "I wanted something". He was a young chap around 30 ish (I'll be 63 next month) ... over 6ft I'd say compared to my 5' 7". Another older gent who'd heard what what was going on came over to check I was OK and guided me away. Driver then got some parcels out of his van and headed off. Trousers half way down his arse ... very scruffy. Very odd he was driving a Royal Mail van as he didn't look like a Royal Mail employee.

Basically, he was just a nasty

 

[Zeberdi]

It all depends. On how much distance there is between protagonists.

(An ex GF middle digitted someone on Lion's Gate Bridge in Vancouver 40 years ago, and they nearly drove her into the creek. So you do obviously have a point. Context.)

I certainly wouldn’t recommend anyone do it from a mobile scooter or on crutches/with a walking stick which I am most of the time now - When you get weak and feeble like me, you become very careful not to bite of more than you can chew - a muffled ‘fcuk off’ under my breath is usually the best I can muster before hightailing it away from the scene

.@kevo did exactly the right thing IMO in responding as he did, I would have done exactly the same. Log the details/identity, highlight their behaviour to other people, make a complaint to whoever they work for if an employee and report it to the police if you have enough details to identify them.

There are some really unpleasant people in the world.