So, over 700 dead......

[wellquickwoody]

and no thread? WTF?

I just wonder if Islam is a culture that steadfastly refused to modernise whatever. One of the rich nations, possibly richest by head per capita, has once again seen hundreds killed and possibly thousands injured whilst celebrating their religion. This has happened on multiple occasions, maybe every 6 or 7 years in the past 35, yet once again it seems whatever has happened in the past has not taught the organisers how to improve safety.

Maybe it is not important to the Saudis to safeguard tourists, albeit religious tourists, to their country?

 

[Soulman]

Can we blame the West......

 

[wellquickwoody]

Can we blame the West......

I don't think so.

I just wonder if the middle eastern culture is too tied to historic tradtion for its' own good.

 

[carlzeiss]

Do they get the 72 virgins or is that only when they kill non-believers first ?

 

[Taybha]

There will be another thread like this in a thousand years time , holographic and perhaps scratch and sniff but no doubt people will still be dying in the name of religion , what a waste .

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Do they get the 72 virgins or is that only when they kill non-believers first ?

Unbelievably crass. Whether or not you are religious, or muslim, 700+ have died. People.

They were not terrorists, they were religious tourists. Sake...

 

[Juan Albion]

Some sick people on this thread.

 

[daveinprague]

Im embarrassed for the posters in question. RIP to the people. The Saudi authorities really need to sort it out. This sort of tragedy has been going on for too many years.

 

[Bakero]

Incredibly the Saudis seem to be placing the blame on the behaviour of the dead, with one prince specifically mentioning African pilgrims.

 

[Hastings gull]

I don't think so.

I just wonder if the middle eastern culture is too tied to historic tradtion for its' own good.

Very very sad. There must surely be a way of avoiding this with modern technology to control crowds, CCTV etc, particularly as it is hardly something that has not been experienced before. Perhaps you are right in that a refusal to change may cause these dreadful tragedies.

 

[Surrey_Albion]

my peaceful immaginary friend is better than yours and you will all be killed and spend eternity in hell.......same old same old, I think it's time we all realised we're here once and once only, then we might all get on and enjoy it

 

[Hillian1]

Outraged over here.

Outraged on behalf of the outraged.

 

[atfc village]

Limit the numbers allowed ,It happens time and time again.

 

[Bry Nylon]

3 million feel compelled to go to Mecca to throw stones at a pillar.

Nothing good is ever going to come of that, no matter how many safety / crowd control measures are put in place.

 

[Munkfish]

Terrible tradigy. Surely events like this show there is no god.

 

[spongy]

my peaceful immaginary friend is better than yours and you will all be killed and spend eternity in hell.......same old same old, I think it's time we all realised we're here once and once only, then we might all get on and enjoy it

I'm not religious by any stretch but I think that is wrong, without religion there would be no conformity, without conformity rules are impossible to enforce so it would be survival of the fittest. And that is the beginning of the end of civilisation as we know it.

 

[Grassman]

I'm not religious by any stretch but I think that is wrong, without religion there would be no conformity, without conformity rules are impossible to enforce so it would be survival of the fittest. And that is the beginning of the end of civilisation as we know it.

Do yourself a favour and purchase 'God Is Not Great' by Christopher Hitchins.

 

[Surrey_Albion]

I'm not religious by any stretch but I think that is wrong, without religion there would be no conformity, without conformity rules are impossible to enforce so it would be survival of the fittest. And that is the beginning of the end of civilisation as we know it.

so it's true, the public have no common sense or morality unless it's been constructed by a group of ancient MEN who made up fairy stories then we as a race don't stand a chance

 

[Surrey_Albion]

I'm not religious by any stretch but I think that is wrong, without religion there would be no conformity, without conformity rules are impossible to enforce so it would be survival of the fittest. And that is the beginning of the end of civilisation as we know it.

so it's true, the public have no common sense or morality unless it's been constructed by a group of ancient MEN who made up fairy stories then we as a race don't stand a chance! also from what I can see religions seem to cause the issues and not the solutions

 

[symyjym]

I'm not religious by any stretch but I think that is wrong, without religion there would be no conformity, without conformity rules are impossible to enforce so it would be survival of the fittest. And that is the beginning of the end of civilisation as we know it.

To worship a God is to absolve yourself from personal responsibility.