Simple NSC EU poll

[Notters]

I know it's been done before, but keep it simple, do you want us IN or OUT of the EU. No ifs or buts, nor sitting on the fence, a definitive poll.

Personally I'm up for a United States of Europe (although under a different name).

 

[Mellotron]

IN. LAST thing we should do is isolate ourselves from the world, with our only true allies being those lunatics to the West...

 

[Notters]

...and I don't have any ulterior motive like to show that those wanting us out are just a loud, whinging minority, like I have with other polls; or do I?

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

As far IN as possible.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Can we agree to keep it civil as well as simple - i.e. no party bashing ? I only ask as otherwise it will turn out like all the other EU threads.

PS - I'm that single "OUT" at the moment.

 

[Mellotron]

Wow. I love how the "silent majority" are actually a tiny minority who never shut the **** up.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Wow. I love how the "silent majority" are actually a tiny minority who never shut the **** up.

No, silly me, we can't keep it civil and simple. It only took to post 6 !

 

[Mellotron]

Can we agree to keep it civil as well as simple - i.e. no party bashing ? I only ask as otherwise it will turn out like all the other EU threads.

PS - I'm that single "OUT" at the moment.

OK - keeping it civil - your genuine, sincere reasons for wanting us out of the EU?

 

[El Presidente]

The reasons for IN are economic

The reasons for OUT are sovereign

 

[crodonilson]

Who voted OUT??

 

[Ernest]

OUT for me and then WE can RECLAIM the beautiful GAME from all these CHEAP foreigners that COME here, once we're OUT all the FOREIGN players will have to GO

 

[Ernest]

The BEST thing will be if the JOCKS vote out and then WE can KICK all their players and MANAGERS out too

That would be BEST for the BEAUTIFUL game

 

[Soulman]

It's an OUT from me.

 

[Don Quixote]

In, makes no sense to leave.

 

[clippedgull]

Abstention! : I can see merits for both positions

 

[Notters]

Abstention! : I can see merits for both positions

Well obviously there are some merits for both options, but would you not vote if there was a referendum?

 

[Westdene Seagull]

OK - keeping it civil - your genuine, sincere reasons for wanting us out of the EU?

High level - we joined a common market and the electorate has never been given a say over the creeping power grab of the EU. We'll have to agree to disagree as to whether centralisation of those powers is good or bad.

Ted Heath admitted in a number of interviews that the plan always was a new super state. The Eurozone was then last big step towards that.

I don't want to belong to such a super state - I'd rather have the interesting differences each of the current members have / had. Some of that is down to silly little things like different currencies and passports and others much more important like control over our own interest rates, control of our own armed forces and control over our own boarders.

The EU is a highly expensive and corrupt organisation that needs serious reform - IMO the EU is neither capable this nor wants to reform.

If the EU had just stayed as a free trade bloc then fine. There was never any need for the steps that have been taken to standardise everything from number plates to currency.

 

[Shatner's Bassoon]

Personally I'm up for a United States of Europe (although under a different name).

You should probably vote for the UK to leave, then.

I'm in.

 

[clippedgull]

Well obviously there are some merits for both options, but would you not vote if there was a referendum?

Yes, I would vote in a referendum but would rather read up/listen more intently to both sides arguments before coming to a considered decision. As there won't be a referendum until 2017 (possibly not even then!) I'm not ready to cast my vote.

 

[Czechmate]

High level - we joined a common market and the electorate has never been given a say over the creeping power grab of the EU. We'll have to agree to disagree as to whether centralisation of those powers is good or bad.

Ted Heath admitted in a number of interviews that the plan always was a new super state. The Eurozone was then last big step towards that.

I don't want to belong to such a super state - I'd rather have the interesting differences each of the current members have / had. Some of that is down to silly little things like different currencies and passports and others much more important like control over our own interest rates, control of our own armed forces and control over our own boarders.

The EU is a highly expensive and corrupt organisation that needs serious reform - IMO the EU is neither capable this nor wants to reform.

If the EU had just stayed as a free trade bloc then fine. There was never any need for the steps that have been taken to standardise everything from number plates to currency.

Totally agree , when we joined the EU I was all for it because I thought it would lesser our relationship with the US , unfortunately this has never happened , as the saying goes we 'lick ass' .