Should we rule out the Play-Offs?

[carteater]

This is a list of the league positions after 12 games of all the teams that have finished in the playoffs in the last 9 seasons, and it makes for Pretty depressing reading

Position after 12 Games:

6th

2004-05 West Ham 5th with 21 Points
(Promoted)

2005-06 Crystal Palace 5th with 20 Points

2006-07 Southampton 11th with 16 Points

2007-08 Watford 1st with 29 Points

2008-09 Preston North End 13th with 17 Points

2009-10 Blackpool 5th with 19 Points (Promoted)

2010-11 Nottingham Forest 13th with 16 Points

2011-12 Cardiff City 12th with 17 Points

2012-13 Leicester City 1st with 25 Points

2013-14 Brighton & Hove Albion 14th with 14 points

5th

2004-05 Preston North End 13th with 15 Points

2005-06 Leeds United 4th with 21 Points

2006-07 Wolverhampton Wanderers 4th with 22 Points

2007-08 Crystal Palace 20th with 11 Points
(EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE AFTER 12 GAMES, bar goal difference)

2008-09 Burnley 6th with 19 Points (Promoted)

2009-10 Leicester City 8th with 18 Points

2010-11 Reading 11th with 16 Points

2011-12 Blackpool 8th with 19 Points

2012-13 Crystal Palace 4th with 21 Points (Promoted)

2013-14 Wigan Athletic 13th with 16 Points

4th

2004-05 Derby County 15th with 15 Points

2005-06 Preston North End 14th with 14 Points

2006-07 West Bromwich Albion 3rd with 22 Points

2007-08 Bristol City 2nd with 23 Points

2008-09 Reading 3rd with 23 Points

2009-10 Cardiff City 3rd with 20 Points

2010-11 Cardiff City 2nd with 26 Points

2011-12 Birmingham City 8th with 21 Points

2012-13 Brighton & Hove Albion 10th with 18 Points

2013-14 Queens Park Rangers 3rd with 27 Points (Promoted)

3rd

2004-05 Ipswich Town 2nd with 24 Points

2005-06 Watford 5th with 19 Points (Promoted)

2006-07 Derby County 8th with 18 Points (Promoted)

2007-08 Hull City 13th with 15 Points (Promoted)

2008-09 Sheffield United 7th with 18 Points

2009-10 Nottingham Forest 7th with 19 Points

2010-11 Swansea City 6th with 20 Points (Promoted)

2011-12 West Ham United 2nd with 21 Points (Promoted)

2012-13 Watford 15th with 16 Points

2013-14 Derby County 8th with 18 Points

Looking at that list only one team has been 20th with 11 points and finished in the play off places. Looks like we definitely should.

 

[Insel affe]

silly question of the day alert.....

Yes

 

[carteater]

silly question of the day alert.....

 

[Goring Gull]

I can't believe anyone is still that dissolussioned to even consider the playoffs this season. We are already 25% of the way through the season.

 

[matt]

You're looking in the wrong direction.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

We need to get to 50 points.

What a WASTED season

 

[clippedgull]

Shouldn't rule them out, but extremely unlikely.

You can have just as much fun with a relegation battle as long as we keep out of the bottom 3!

 

[Braders]

The way I'm feeling at the moment the top half is starting to feel like it's being closed on us.


I KNOW it's silly ,we're still quite early on in the season but we don't seem to learn from the problem we've had for the last 8 games now.

 

[Diablo]

Play offs no chance... unless we get a big strong striker very soon. Not one of the forwards looks like scoring........

 

[Peteinblack]

I've given up on this season and almost lost interest already; can't remember when I felt so 'meh' at this stage of a season before.

Roll on August 2015, so we can start again.

 

[seagullwedgee]

We need to add another 63 points to what we've already got, to reach the playoffs.

That means we need to average about 2 points per game from our remaining games.

That means we need to WIN EVERY REMAINING HOM GAME and we also need to DRAW EVERY REMAINING AWAY GAME.



Season totally dead and buried, thanks to the Finnish muppet. I first watched the shambolic high-full-back style against Real Betis, that was exactly three months ago. We have learnt absolutely nothing, we have changed absolutely nothing, and we have achieved precisely nothing.

S.H.I.T. = Sami Hyypia Is Toast.

 

[brightonmark1234]

we can rule out the play offs if we dont bring in that quality forward we need

 

[JBenno]

We need to add another 63 points to what we've already got, to reach the playoffs.

That means we need to average about 2 points per game from our remaining games.

That means we need to WIN EVERY REMAINING HOM GAME and we also need to DRAW EVERY REMAINING AWAY GAME.



Season totally dead and buried, thanks to the Finnish muppet. I first watched the shambolic high-full-back style against Real Betis, that was exactly three months ago. We have learnt absolutely nothing, we have changed absolutely nothing, and we have achieved precisely nothing.

S.H.I.T. = Sami Hyypia Is Toast.

So you're not sold on him then?

 

[durrington gull]

Virtually no chance - just be happy to stay up

 

[seagullwedgee]

No, not sold on him at all. I think he's an arrogant pr1ck who is not listening to what players, and staff, are telling him - change the bl00dy system or die!

Notice how organised Boro looked with a disciplined but boring back four? Start with that, then organise the rest, and we might start to arrest the decline.

But he's too arrogant, he believes he can shoe horn our mediocre talent into an LVG style, and if we fail it will be the players fault, not his fault.

he is a knob.

 

[GT49er]

Impressive set of stats but didn't bother reading them. Don't need stats to tell me that we ain't going to be in the play-offs this season.

 

[JBenno]

No, not sold on him at all. I think he's an arrogant pr1ck who is not listening to what players, and staff, are telling him - change the bl00dy system or die!

Notice how organised Boro looked with a disciplined but boring back four? Start with that, then organise the rest, and we might start to arrest the decline.





But he's too arrogant, he believes he can shoe horn our mediocre talent into an LVG style, and if we fail it will be the players fault, not his fault.

he is a knob.

What have the players and staff been telling him then?

Yes Boro were very well organised, but I would like to add that their 'boring' back four contained the centre back who ran the length of the pitch to create the second goal. I'm sure that wasn't in Karanka's game plan!
Although I'm not convinced by Sami, I do think that the players let him down Saturday to a degree.

 

[Goring Gull]

Equally to blame

 

[Geriatric Seagull]

I don't know anything about him or his personality but my impression of his management so far is that he is clearly not up to the job. The players don't appear to know what their roles are- or if they do they're not up to it. There was little or no evidence on Saturday that the international break had produced anything positive in terms of what happens on the pitch.

 

[Wrong-Direction]

You're looking in the wrong direction.

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