glasfryn
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not if you deport them straight from court , back to the West Indies.
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Should UK pay reparations to Jamaica for slavery?
- Thread starter gregbrighton
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not if you deport them straight from court , back to the West Indies.
Mackenzie
Old Brightonian
You're having fun though?
symyjym
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Britain certainly needs to recognise its past and it is not healthy to be ignorant about it. Japan seems to feel the need to apoligise for their mistakes on a regular basis. I think acknowledgment can help countries to move forward, and makes them sound less hypocritical when dealing with the world today.
The last 5000 years has been a continuous wave of Empires rising and falling, with each one learning the strategy from the previous. It’s a case of monkey see monkey do.
alfredmizen
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- Mar 11, 2015
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Cough, splutter , are you sure
Don't you mean Germany ??This wasn't aimed at you specifically, apologies if you think it was. I've just heard this point a lot when the debate is aired and never quite considered it as analogous with, say, the British Empire and slavery.
Dear Mr. Cameron,
It has come to my attention that at some time in the last eight or nine hundred years, it is highly probable that one of my ancestors, or one of their siblings or other close relatives, was hanged for theft. In all probability the theft was a fairly minor one, and I’m sure you’ll agree with me that the practice of hanging people for such offences is deplorable and completely unacceptable.
Mere words cannot describe the devastating and continuing effect this atrocity has had on my family, and I feel it is time for wrongs to be righted. Profuse apologies, much hand-wringing and an unconditional admission of guilt are of course de rigeur in these circumstances, but in themselves are meaningless gestures without the necessary compensation for our stress.
Not that I’m just after the money, you understand – no, no, far from it – but I do want justice for my fore-fathers. A sum of £2.5 million will, I think, be adequate to ease, if not totally eradicate, my trauma. I’m sure you’ll agree that is reasonable.
I trust that you will shortly be having a favourable discussion about this matter with your friend and colleague, Mr. Osborne. I look forward to receiving my cheque in the post in the not too distant future.
Yours sincerely……………..
It has come to my attention that at some time in the last eight or nine hundred years, it is highly probable that one of my ancestors, or one of their siblings or other close relatives, was hanged for theft. In all probability the theft was a fairly minor one, and I’m sure you’ll agree with me that the practice of hanging people for such offences is deplorable and completely unacceptable.
Mere words cannot describe the devastating and continuing effect this atrocity has had on my family, and I feel it is time for wrongs to be righted. Profuse apologies, much hand-wringing and an unconditional admission of guilt are of course de rigeur in these circumstances, but in themselves are meaningless gestures without the necessary compensation for our stress.
Not that I’m just after the money, you understand – no, no, far from it – but I do want justice for my fore-fathers. A sum of £2.5 million will, I think, be adequate to ease, if not totally eradicate, my trauma. I’m sure you’ll agree that is reasonable.
I trust that you will shortly be having a favourable discussion about this matter with your friend and colleague, Mr. Osborne. I look forward to receiving my cheque in the post in the not too distant future.
Yours sincerely……………..
Lord Bracknell
On fire
Thousands of British individuals made a fortune out of the abolition of slavery, when they received astonishingly high compensation from the Slave Compensation Commission, which was active from 1833 to 1842. In some instances, those compensation payments formed the basis of tremendous windfalls of wealth that continue to benefit the families of slave-owners to the present day.
If anyone should be expected to pay compensation now, it is the families that made their fortunes out of the abolition of slavery in the 1830s, not the UK government.
There's a very interesting, searchable database here:-
https://www.ucl.ac.uk/lbs/
If anyone should be expected to pay compensation now, it is the families that made their fortunes out of the abolition of slavery in the 1830s, not the UK government.
There's a very interesting, searchable database here:-
https://www.ucl.ac.uk/lbs/
Insel affe
HellBilly
Oh dear, how patronizing to the indigenous peoples of North and South America who lived there for thousands of years to be called the new world..... just because Europeans claimed it for themselves...
We all know they did not and Vikings, Chinese, even English adventurers found the "New World"
Was not having a go at you,
Just how far do we go back though....
Unfortunately what is done is done, I am not to blame and feel I should not feel guilty or my taxes should go towards any reparations to any country.
We should apologize, move on and make sure history does not repeat its self where we are concerned ... End of
Lord Bracknell
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The Hankey family of 10 Brunswick Square, Hove, received £50,000 compensation for freeing slaves in the 1830s. In today's money, that is worth almost £6 million.
symyjym
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Cough, splutter , are you sure
Yes, Germany should be included.
Garry Nelson's Left Foot
Well-known member
No, they don't.
symyjym
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There was a good BBC, 2 part documentary "Britain's Forgotten Slave Owners", you may have seen it, where it stated that £17billion was paid out to slave owners.
It's all documented with who had what and all the companies that were born from it, and if compensation is due it is probably their burden not the tax payer.
symyjym
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Don't what?
Garry Nelson's Left Foot
Well-known member
Ah, thought I'd highlighted the relevant sentence.
I was replying to the bit about Japan constantly apologising. They don't and as far as I'm aware never have.
alfredmizen
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- Mar 11, 2015
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I mean Germany full stop, Japan has still not acknowledged its war crimes from ww2.
symyjym
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Ah, thought I'd highlighted the relevant sentence.
I was replying to the bit about Japan constantly apologising. They don't and as far as I'm aware never have.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_apology_statements_issued_by_Japan
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Dave the OAP
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No apology necessary, I didn't take like that. I do agree that the British empire, as well as the French, Dutch and Portuguese and Spanish have a lot to answer for around that time and I suppose in these enlightened days of personal freedom as a " human right" then what appeared as normal in times of antiquity would appear an anathema to us now.