[Politics] Should NATO send in troops and planes

[Icy Gull]

What is the general feeling on NSC

Should NATO get involved with troops on the ground and planes in the air in Ukraine?

What think you? No fence option, that’s where we are at the moment…

 

[Lenny Rider]

And get involved with troops on the ground and planes in the air?

What think you? No fence option, that’s where we are at the moment…

A very dangerous road sadly.......

I hope they don't for the time being.

 

[British Bulldog]

I can only see Ukraine being split like Germany was after WW2 being the only solution?

 

[beorhthelm]

no.

asymmetric risk, call it wrong its very very bad.

 

[Icy Gull]

Should NATO send in troops and planes to Ukraine

Double post

 

[British Bulldog]

Nato will get involved, we have no choice really?

 

[Notters]

Well I voted no way, but one would think there would be covert operations going on, both in Ukraine and in Russia?

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Sadly I agree. We shouldn't be allowing civilians to be slaughtered.

I get the risks but we can't let a modern day Hitler have his way.

I also think NATO are being too nervous. Given Russian forces are mainly young conscripts and haven't been able the break either the Ukrainian forces or even the civilians it would suggest a few battalions of US, UK and French combat troops - Marines, Paras and Special Forces, wouldn't have an issue. All battle hardened from Afgan, Iraq and, for the French, Africa.

I find incomprehensable that we can allow the slaughter to continue.

 

[Icy Gull]

Thanks to the Mod who sorted out the thread

 

[Baker lite]

For the moment no.

 

[Guinness Boy]

For some reason when I merged the two threads to keep the poll it reverted the thread title. I think it's all tidied up now. Long morning......

Anyway, to answer the question, no. It's no more our business than Putin's incursions into Georgia, annexing Crimea or war crimes in Syria. It's just nearer to the doorstep.

NATO is there to defend NATO countries and if Putin attacks one of those then sadly we are looking at Nuclear War.

 

[Baker lite]

Sadly I agree. We shouldn't be allowing civilians to be slaughtered.

I get the risks but we can't let a modern day Hitler have his way.

I also think NATO are being too nervous. Given Russian forces are mainly young conscripts and haven't been able the break either the Ukrainian forces or even the civilians it would suggest a few battalions of US, UK and French combat troops - Marines, Paras and Special Forces, wouldn't have an issue. All battle hardened from Afgan, Iraq and, for French Africa.

I find incomprehensable that we can allow the slaughter to continue.

I take it you are not the parent of a Marine, Para or special forces operative?

 

[AmexRuislip]

Hopefully all the sanctions and foreign investment pull out that has been put in place, will hit Putin where it hurts most, his own kin.
They'll soon get pissed off with him, and then hopefully he'll get the heave ho, by his own folk instead of CIA black ops guys.

 

[Blazing Apostle]

Sadly we need more time to prepare for a war against Putin...now is not the time...but it won't be that far away

 

[pb21]

IMO no, way too risky. At the moment we should be doing everything short of sending in NATO troops.

 

[Luke93]

Sadly I agree. We shouldn't be allowing civilians to be slaughtered.

I get the risks but we can't let a modern day Hitler have his way.

I also think NATO are being too nervous. Given Russian forces are mainly young conscripts and haven't been able the break either the Ukrainian forces or even the civilians it would suggest a few battalions of US, UK and French combat troops - Marines, Paras and Special Forces, wouldn't have an issue. All battle hardened from Afgan, Iraq and, for the French, Africa.

I find incomprehensable that we can allow the slaughter to continue.

NATO may have smarter tech and personal, but what happens when Russia respond with Nukes?

 

[lawros left foot]

Sadly I agree. We shouldn't be allowing civilians to be slaughtered.

I get the risks but we can't let a modern day Hitler have his way.

I also think NATO are being too nervous. Given Russian forces are mainly young conscripts and haven't been able the break either the Ukrainian forces or even the civilians it would suggest a few battalions of US, UK and French combat troops - Marines, Paras and Special Forces, wouldn't have an issue. All battle hardened from Afgan, Iraq and, for the French, Africa.

I find incomprehensable that we can allow the slaughter to continue.

We’ve let the slaughter continue in Syria, Yemen and Palestine. The time to do something passed in 2014, unfortunately too many Western politicians had their hands in Putins pocket.
Putin has shown he is not mentally stable, and his country has 5,000 nukes. Personally, I don’t want us to give him the excuse to use them. It would mean the end of Earth as a ‘live’ planet.
I don’t know if people don’t know how bad a nuclear war would be.

The living would envy the dead.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

I take it you are not the parent of a Marine, Para or special forces operative?

No I'm not but my family have many links to both the Army and the Royal Navy - prime example.being that my cousin commanded a battalion dropped into Bosnia many years ago. I get we would lose troops but to misquote a government minister this echos of WWII - Nazi's invaded one country and the West went 'bad but not our problem' - it soon became our problem !

 

[Baker lite]

No I'm not but my family have many links to both the Army and the Royal Navy - prime example.being that my cousin commanded a battalion dropped into Bosnia many years ago. I get we would lose troops but to misquote a government minister this echos of WWII - Nazi's invaded one country and the West went 'bad but not our problem' - it soon became our problem !

Thought so.

 

[birthofanorange]

I've had to vote 'No', as if you believe (and I do) Putin would 'press the button', then it becomes a pointless exercise, as all of Ukraine will be flattened alongside pretty much everywhere and everyone else.
I fully accept that Putin may push further, given time, and that it may well happen eventually, but there are many more possibilities for things to happen, during that time, than the pretty immediate (in my opinion) extinction of civilisation, globally.