Should Knight quit as chairman

[Easy 10]

O button your boring twatty cakewhole

Im a fan and i have my opinion regardless of what you say,you are like many numpty's on here OBSESSED with the past and lick dicks arse.Dick took over in 1997 yes "TOOK" over and the club was still in business as other consortium's where in the process also of taking this club over.

Dick brought us back to brighton in which that was a priority regardless who took over,so after bringing us back to brighton the club for nearly 10 years battled and won falmer approval thanks to the hard work of the blooms

If dick is that good why have we lost revenue at the withdean for every match we have played?yes rented seats and this inturn amongst other things has rattled up huge debts for the club.

Now if dick was that good we wouldn't have these problems would we?its ifs and buts about all this he saved us bollocks

Move on its been 11 years

For bone-headed posts on NSC, this one really does deserve a special award, for a very special poster.

Yes, Dick Knight "TOOK" over in 1997, as you state. Are you implying there was a queue of businessmen waiting in the wings to take over a homeless, debt-ridden football club at the arse end of the 4th division back then ? After stumping up half a mill for the privilege ? Yep, I'm sure Knight must have been ELBOWING them aside to buy that shambles of a club back then.

OBVIOUSLY getting us back to Brighton and getting Falmer was the number 1 priority, which was achieved. Loved the smiley about the Blooms in your remarks, is that to deflect any POSSIBLE achievement in this away from DK ? Yeah, he had nothing to do with it, did he.

And if you have any bright ideas about how to make a lower division club playing at a rented athletics track for 10 years into a moneymaking exercise, then I'm sure Dick and the board would be ALL EARS. In fact, f*** it, present a case to Alan Sugar you f***ing marketing genius. In the meantime, the board at the Albion has concentrated on keeping this club AFLOAT over this period, which is something you clearly take for granted, but those of us WITHOUT a bucket of monkeyshit on our shoulders acting as a brain do not.

"move on, its been 11 years" ?
Those 11 years have been GRANTED to you by the very person you seem to think has destroyed the club.

DICKHEAD.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

What about the 'I have no idea how companies are run brigade' who have never heard of board meetings and how decisions are made within them.

DK does not run the club, the Blooms do. He is the Nookie Bear to Tony Blooms Roger de Courcey, because like everything else in life, money talks.

Our fans are so shallow that if Barry Hearn said he would put £10million into the club provided someone sucked Scott McGleish's cock, there would be a queue ten times round Withdean within the hour to carry out his wishes.

Wrong about the companies thing actually i have been involved with muliti million pound companies and i know what goes on.
Yes i know the Blooms have a say but Dick is a weak man if he agrees with everything they say and for that reason alone "your fired dk".


Stop your sucking up man and admit Knight has made some huge errrors recently and that is why we are starring at the bottom level of league football.

You are obviously looking for a bit of cheese with your cucumber aswell.

 

[Alex Alex Dawson oo! oo!]

Examples / quotes / sources?

Or is that just your opinion (and not yours alone, I do realise) on what led to the sacking?

You could well be right, but there are two sides to every situation, and I'm not sure we've ever heard either of them, so everything beyond what we've seen with our own eyes on the pitch cannot be relied upon too heavily IMHO.

Mr W J Brown; is that OK?

 

[London Pompous]

Stop your sucking up man and admit Knight has made some huge errrors recently and that is why we are starring at the bottom level of league football.

I think the players have made far more errors than Dick Knight. He has done far more good than bad.

 

[Easy 10]

Wrong about the companies thing actually i have been involved with muliti million pound companies and i know what goes on.
Yes i know the Blooms have a say but Dick is a weak man if he agrees with everything they say and for that reason alone "your fired dk".


Stop your sucking up man and admit Knight has made some huge errrors recently and that is why we are starring at the bottom level of league football.

You are obviously looking for a bit of cheese with your cucumber aswell.

Knight (and the board) have indeed made errors this season, I've no problem admitting that. This season has turned into an unmitigated disaster off the decision to sack Wilkins - although I doubt anyone could have predicted the scale of what has unfolded.

But people calling for Knights head off the back of this is frankly pathetic. The "HE'S DONE SOMETHING WRONG SO HE MUST GO" brigade need to wind there bloody necks in and look at the bigger picture. I doubt there is a chairman in the country who hasn't made a rick out of a managerial appointment at some point. Knight and the board have got a SHITLOAD of crucial things right over this last 10 years that will FAR outweigh what they've got wrong. They are well in credit with this as far as I'm concerned, and have chucked funds at the managers to back them as well. They do not deserve the SHITSTORM they are copping because some fans have thrown the toys out after expecting to go up this year.

 

[The Large One]

Wrong about the companies thing actually i have been involved with muliti million pound companies and i know what goes on.
Yes i know the Blooms have a say but Dick is a weak man if he agrees with everything they say and for that reason alone "your fired dk".


Stop your sucking up man and admit Knight has made some huge errrors recently and that is why we are starring at the bottom level of league football.

You are obviously looking for a bit of cheese with your cucumber aswell.

I think it's evident you don't have any inkling of the internal politics at the club. If you did, you'd know that the last things the Blooms want to do is get rid of Dick Knight as chairman. You'd also know know that your posts about 'sucking up' to Dick not only are wrong, they make no sense.

Dick is not in a weak position. I'd say he is in a pretty strong position. He is the largest shareholder, can out-vote both Blooms together, and has a perfectly good working relationship with not only the Blooms but all of the directors, even when they disagree on various matters. Plus, the Board has never made any hint about wanting Dick removed from his position, and they are perfectly entitled to act upon that at any time. All they have to do is call an EGM.

 

[The Large One]

Knight (and the board) have indeed made errors this season, I've no problem admitting that. This season has turned into an unmitigated disaster off the decision to sack Wilkins - although I doubt anyone could have predicted the scale of what has unfolded.

But people calling for Knights head off the back of this is frankly pathetic. The "HE'S DONE SOMETHING WRONG SO HE MUST GO" brigade need to wind there bloody necks in and look at the bigger picture. I doubt there is a chairman in the country who hasn't made a rick out of a managerial appointment at some point. Knight and the board have got a SHITLOAD of crucial things right over this last 10 years that will FAR outweigh what they've got wrong. They are well in credit with this as far as I'm concerned, and have chucked funds at the managers to back them as well. They do not deserve the SHITSTORM they are copping because some fans have thrown the toys out after expecting to go up this year.

Quite. Creating scapegoats is a favourite pastime.

 

[portlock seagull]

This has to be the most pathetic question ever
you will find that once a vacancy opens people will then appear

Absolute bollocks. And you should know that. If you don't, then I'm not surprised you collect trolleys for a living. Just plain stupid reasoning.

 

[portlock seagull]

I bloody love Dick Knight and he can stay for life as far as I'm concerned. Not only is the man responsible for saving the club, bringing us home, putting the structure in place to win two championships and a play-off final, attracting a host of decent managers and players, and finally build us a new stadium (as if that all wasn't enough), he's also the man that, in my opinion, makes the albion what it is. Give me a club that's down to earth and in contact with its supporters, one where everybody is genuinely a part of the club, over a foreign owner who sees each supporter as a potential customer to exploit. It goes without saying that Knight should be chairman when we walk out at Falmer, and to be honest it wouldn't bother me in the slightest if he stays much longer.

OMG! Badger shockingly tells it how it is

 

[portlock seagull]

For bone-headed posts on NSC, this one really does deserve a special award, for a very special poster.

Yes, Dick Knight "TOOK" over in 1997, as you state. Are you implying there was a queue of businessmen waiting in the wings to take over a homeless, debt-ridden football club at the arse end of the 4th division back then ? After stumping up half a mill for the privilege ? Yep, I'm sure Knight must have been ELBOWING them aside to buy that shambles of a club back then.

OBVIOUSLY getting us back to Brighton and getting Falmer was the number 1 priority, which was achieved. Loved the smiley about the Blooms in your remarks, is that to deflect any POSSIBLE achievement in this away from DK ? Yeah, he had nothing to do with it, did he.

And if you have any bright ideas about how to make a lower division club playing at a rented athletics track for 10 years into a moneymaking exercise, then I'm sure Dick and the board would be ALL EARS. In fact, f*** it, present a case to Alan Sugar you f***ing marketing genius. In the meantime, the board at the Albion has concentrated on keeping this club AFLOAT over this period, which is something you clearly take for granted, but those of us WITHOUT a bucket of monkeyshit on our shoulders acting as a brain do not.

"move on, its been 11 years" ?
Those 11 years have been GRANTED to you by the very person you seem to think has destroyed the club.

DICKHEAD.

 

[Alex Alex Dawson oo! oo!]

Mr W J Brown; is that OK?

He's the second largest shareholder (16%).

 

[ROSM]

From a purely football (ie on the pitch) perspective this looks a reasonable point of view to hold.
However, some of DW's actions/activities when team manager were outside of his business remit and rendered his position as a member of the Club's senior management untenable; that is what lead to the Board concluding that he should be removed from that position.

and this my friends - amongst the pile of opinion posted on this thread is the one stated fact (as it now appears was supplied by a significant shareholder of the club and not someone who would cow tow as an acolyte in this or any other business he has been involed in).

We have now heard this from a shareholder, an agent, players, friends of players and others who claim to be close to the club.

So with all this in mind, the decision Knight took to fire Wilkins whilst in playing terms may have looked a strange one, in general company terms seems (I emphasis this word) to have been one based on business judgement and backed by not only the majority of the board (Naylor has referred to one dissenting voice) and other shareholders. Was it a maistake? Did it cause us to be where we are now? Nobody can say yes or no to either of those for sure.

However, I would say that the board in general and the chairman in particular have never been slow to back (either morally or financially) managers of this football club. As I've said before, Wilkins must have done something to not engage that kind of support.

 

[Storer68]

So Dick can make errors and Wilkins can't hmmmmmmmmmm and people wonder why Dick has lost massive respect.

Isn't that what happens in ALL companies

The employer has the ability to hire and fire.

Which is why he is the chairman of the board and not the chief executive or first team manager or ground safety officer

 

[Seagull73]

For bone-headed posts on NSC, this one really does deserve a special award, for a very special poster.

Yes, Dick Knight "TOOK" over in 1997, as you state. Are you implying there was a queue of businessmen waiting in the wings to take over a homeless, debt-ridden football club at the arse end of the 4th division back then ? After stumping up half a mill for the privilege ? Yep, I'm sure Knight must have been ELBOWING them aside to buy that shambles of a club back then.

OBVIOUSLY getting us back to Brighton and getting Falmer was the number 1 priority, which was achieved. Loved the smiley about the Blooms in your remarks, is that to deflect any POSSIBLE achievement in this away from DK ? Yeah, he had nothing to do with it, did he.

And if you have any bright ideas about how to make a lower division club playing at a rented athletics track for 10 years into a moneymaking exercise, then I'm sure Dick and the board would be ALL EARS. In fact, f*** it, present a case to Alan Sugar you f***ing marketing genius. In the meantime, the board at the Albion has concentrated on keeping this club AFLOAT over this period, which is something you clearly take for granted, but those of us WITHOUT a bucket of monkeyshit on our shoulders acting as a brain do not.

"move on, its been 11 years" ?
Those 11 years have been GRANTED to you by the very person you seem to think has destroyed the club.

DICKHEAD.

Bloody Marvellous Post!

 

[Deleted member 2719]

I think the players have made far more errors than Dick Knight. He has done far more good than bad.

Of course Dick has done some great work there is no disputing that mainly in the past, what really irritates me is he can not stand up take the fact he has made some major mistakes and say i have let my personal feeling get involved with the manager situation and i am sorry cos i got in wrong and it won't happen again.

Result 98% happy fans and lot's of respect gained by the fence sitter in this thread.

Knight (and the board) have indeed made errors this season, I've no problem admitting that. This season has turned into an unmitigated disaster off the decision to sack Wilkins - although I doubt anyone could have predicted the scale of what has unfolded.

But people calling for Knights head off the back of this is frankly pathetic. The "HE'S DONE SOMETHING WRONG SO HE MUST GO" brigade need to wind there bloody necks in and look at the bigger picture. I doubt there is a chairman in the country who hasn't made a rick out of a managerial appointment at some point. Knight and the board have got a SHITLOAD of crucial things right over this last 10 years that will FAR outweigh what they've got wrong. They are well in credit with this as far as I'm concerned, and have chucked funds at the managers to back them as well. They do not deserve the SHITSTORM they are copping because some fans have thrown the toys out after expecting to go up this year.

I am not a "i told you so" person but it was plain to see that by swapping a manager who was building a decent footballing squad and winning matches to a man who preferred to play a different system you were asking for trouble and that is exactly what Dick got let alone sacking a 20 year loyal servant to the club because he didn't like him, did Dick really think people would really think he is a nice chairman that Knight i meet lot's of football fans from other clubs that think he must have lost the plot and can we blame them for thinking it?

I think it's evident you don't have any inkling of the internal politics at the club. If you did, you'd know that the last things the Blooms want to do is get rid of Dick Knight as chairman. You'd also know know that your posts about 'sucking up' to Dick not only are wrong, they make no sense.

Dick is not in a weak position. I'd say he is in a pretty strong position. He is the largest shareholder, can out-vote both Blooms together, and has a perfectly good working relationship with not only the Blooms but all of the directors, even when they disagree on various matters. Plus, the Board has never made any hint about wanting Dick removed from his position, and they are perfectly entitled to act upon that at any time. All they have to do is call an EGM.

I don't know the internal politics but i do know when a man makes big mistakes in big business he won't last long.I would guess a few strong words have been said and now it's down to show if Dick still has got it to lead us forward to the Championship.

Quite. Creating scapegoats is a favourite pastime.

Let's not talk about creating scapegoats as the is no better expert than our Dick.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

Isn't that what happens in ALL companies

The employer has the ability to hire and fire.

Which is why he is the chairman of the board and not the chief executive or first team manager or ground safety officer

You right but it YouTube - The Specials - Doesn't Make It Alright

 

[London Pompous]

Of course Dick has done some great work there is no disputing that mainly in the past, what really irritates me is he can not stand up take the fact he has made some major mistakes and say i have let my personal feeling get involved with the manager situation and i am sorry cos i got in wrong and it won't happen again.

Result 98% happy fans and lot's of respect gained by the fence sitter in this thread.

I am not a "i told you so" person but it was plain to see that by swapping a manager who was building a decent footballing squad and winning matches to a man who preferred to play a different system you were asking for trouble and that is exactly what Dick got let alone sacking a 20 year loyal servant to the club because he didn't like him, did Dick really think people would really think he is a nice chairman that Knight i meet lot's of football fans from other clubs that think he must have lost the plot and can we blame them for thinking it?

I don't know the internal politics but i do know when a man makes big mistakes in big business he won't last long.I would guess a few strong words have been said and now it's down to show if Dick still has got it to lead us forward to the Championship.

Let's not talk about creating scapegoats as the is no better expert than our Dick.

1. If you look at his record, DW lost as many matches as he won.
2. If he is as good as people say, why did Orient turn him down when he applied to be their manager after they sacked Ling?

 

[Easy 10]

did Dick really think people would really think he is a nice chairman that Knight i meet lot's of football fans from other clubs that think he must have lost the plot and can we blame them for thinking it?

He's not there to try to get people to think he's a nice chairman. He's there to make decisions for what he believes are the best interests of the Club - thats his job. Some he's got right, some he's got wrong, and its only with the power of hindsight that we can look back and judge.

He gets more right than wrong, the club is still solvent, and we'll have a proper stadium in a couple of years. That tells me he tends to get the BIGGEST decisions right, on the whole. And thats good enough for me.

 

[tim warneford]

So some have had too much Dick and others not enough Dick. Some claim Dick was true and proud and others that he is now false and craven. Some say he gave everything and others that he did not give more. At the end of the day he is the only Dick we have and we may as well stick with him until a bigger Dick comes.

 

[Pavilionaire]

I support Dick Knight, he has to stay. However, now is the right time for the board to consider succession planning with him. Falmer's only two years away, and if we get there his work at this club will have been done.

I worry that age is catching up with him - he's in his 70s and couldn't have envisaged back in 97 that it would have been such hard work to get to this point. For the sake of his health, if nothing else, alternative plans should be discussed.