Shaker Aamer released from Guantanamo

[Brian Fantana]

He left Saudi Arabia a long time ago. He's lived in America before, and worked for the US Army as a translator during the first Gulf War. He first arrived in the UK in the mid-90s.

 

[W.C.]

Strange how some folk expound the superior virtues of western democracy, yet fail to condemn the imprisonment and torture of someone who has no recourse to a fair trial.

Very much this.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

plenty of murderers and rapists have been released into the uk community, in many cases, in less than 13 years, and they were actually found guilty of committing a crime in the uk, rather than taking an american occupiers words for it and being detained at guantanamo for 13 years without charge, or trial.
Maybe some of our news gatherers can list all convicted criminals being released, from uk jails on a daily basis so we can be more vigilant. Much more chance of these people affecting your lives.

fortunately you don't live here
regards
DR

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Different laws for different countries though isnt it. Saudi is the home of Islam. Its going to have wierdness going on.
I find things weird here. Police go mental if Im stopped for document checks (where else does that happen in Europe) and im not carrying ID, and end up paying a bribe, yet ive been smoking a joint in the street, and an officer has come to me to ask me if the car I was standing by was mine, completely ignoring the fact that me and my mate are standing there smoking joints.

THAT EXPLAINS YOUR MIND NUMBING POSTS THEN
regards
DR

 

[Eeyore]

The whole argument seems to hinge on this. If your in a war zone, especially as a foreign national it would be quite easy to be executed as a spy, ie you need a damn good reason to be there

he should be strung up years ago or sent back to saudi and his wife booted out.

So you are condoning extrajudicial executions of people with unproven guilt. Is that a fair process ?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

He left Saudi Arabia a long time ago. He's lived in America before, and worked for the US Army as a translator during the first Gulf War. He first arrived in the UK in the mid-90s.

Surely the US army would have had a record of that, which would have cleared his name.

 

[Hotchilidog]

Locked up without CHARGE for 14 years pretty says all you need to know. We either stand for ht rule of law or we don't. The OP assumes guilt without any real evidence of any wrong doing whatsoever.

I thought we left the unlawful detention and torture of people to the bad guys, or is it allowed when we are the people doing it.

 

[alfredmizen]

It really depends (in bold) how he uses his time when he is out. I would like to think there is a possibility that he could be an inspiration for restraint against radicalisation. From the article posted http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-1914791.html he sounds like a rational and intelligent person.

 

[BigGully]

It really depends (in bold) how he uses his time when he is out. I would like to think there is a possibility that he could be an inspiration for restraint against radicalisation. From the article posted http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-1914791.html he sounds like a rational and intelligent person.

Dont be so bloody daft, he will have his entourage of advisor's, lawyers and apologists his next stop is compensation, lots of it.

 

[symyjym]

Dont be so bloody daft, he will have his entourage of advisor's, lawyers and apologists his next stop is compensation, lots of it.

Yes I know, SA should have hung Nelson Mandela, look at all the trouble he caused since he came out.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Dont be so bloody daft, he will have his entourage of advisor's, lawyers and apologists his next stop is compensation, lots of it.

Were he an innocent man he would just walk away, apologise for any confusion he may have caused and also for wasting their time.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Yes I know, SA should have hung Nelson Mandela, look at all the trouble he caused since he came out.

was he gay
regards
DR

 

[Brian Fantana]

Surely the US army would have had a record of that, which would have cleared his name.

The two things aren't connected though, are they?

Just because he has worked for US government in the past doesn't mean that he couldn't have gone on to commit crimes in the future.

 

[AlbionPics&SouthCoastTwit]

Shaker Aamer released from Guantanamo

Is he a left back?

and is Guantanamo in the first or second division?

 

[GT49er]

Dont be so bloody daft, he will have his entourage of advisor's, lawyers and apologists his next stop is compensation, lots of it.

Probably none of us will every know the truth of his guilt or otherwise (though many will have opinions that they will present as if fact!), but I don't think there's much doubt about 'entourage of advisor's, lawyers and apologists his next stop is compensation, lots of it'!

 

[looney]

So you are condoning extrajudicial executions of people with unproven guilt. Is that a fair process ?

In a war zone yes.

ETA my interpritation of jurisprudence and not your projection.

 

[Eeyore]

and is Guantanamo in the first or second division?

Certainly got a tight defence. Loyal players too, they stay for a long time.

 

[knocky1]

Worth scanning through this. This is an American perspective of the hell hole.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2005/07/11/the-experiment-3

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The two things aren't connected though, are they?

Just because he has worked for US government in the past doesn't mean that he couldn't have gone on to commit crimes in the future.

Identification for starters. Has he committed a crime?

 

[AlbionPics&SouthCoastTwit]

Worth scanning through this. This is an American perspective of the hell hole.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2005/07/11/the-experiment-3

That was written 10 years ago. Things have changed a bit over the years with an intention of closing it down that never has happened yet.