Secretly Fuming

[mike1901]

Although he will say all the right things, I bet C/H is fuming, yet again our recruitment team have failed to get a striker over the line. Kept hearing it will go to the last minute. What a joke. Well it was good while it lasted. Only three games in same position.
NIGHTMARE it was good while it lasted.
ill be there every week shouting my head off chearing them on. But secretly knowing we havn't actually got much of a chance. Very very sad. Premiership ready we were not. !!!!

 

[Mayonaise]

I think everybody would have been busting a gut behind the scenes to make those deals happen (and we were unlucky with the failed medicals too) but it is ultimately about getting results.

That is what Chris gets judged on and his job has just got a lot harder.

 

[BRIGHT ON Q]

I think a lot of people are going to feel numb this morning.

 

[mike1901]

Yes. But yet again we failed with our PRIMARY target. It happens every year. we have three hard working forwards. Two of which will probably be injured at any one time for alot of the season.
This is ridiculous. At the end of the day they GOT IT WRONG, no excuses. !

 

[Stat Brother]

I think everybody would have been busting a gut behind the scenes to make those deals happen (and we were unlucky with the failed medicals too) but it is ultimately about getting results.

That is what Chris gets judged on and his job has just got a lot harder.

Stop it, STOP IT, STOP IT.

The club weren't unlucky with the failed medicals.

Neto's problems were well publicised long before he even touched down in the UK.
That deal was a 'speculative punt' to see just how bad his knee(s) were, I'll be amazed if the medical team looked at any other part of him.

It took the club 3 weeks to find the 'only' £2m it took to get Raphael passed Baldock and into the medical office.
That isn't unlucky that's rank amateurism.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

He may be secretly fuming. I am openly fuming.
Since July 1st, our recruitment ( or lack of it ) has been a shambles. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that the majority of PL players possess the following attributes in lesser or greater degree. Pace, physicality and speed of thought. It is also patently obvious that the key to survival at this level is to score at least 40 goals and by doing so, reach as close to 40 points as possible.
We achieved promotion with two good Championship strikers, both, not very mobile and lacking pace but capable of scoring reasonably regularly at that level. They were supported by Baldock, who is lightweight, lacks a top strikers instinct and is injury prone. He runs into space a lot and that encourages fans to think he could do it at a higher level. He won't. Decent at Div 1/Championship level but clearly lacking the class for anything higher. It was likely that these three would struggle to get 15 goals between them this season. Therefore, it was clear to all and sundry that we needed to loan out one of these three and recruit two new strikers, both with pace and with the potential to get 6 - 8 goals each.
We clearly needed another keeper. Preferably big and strong to cope with the power in the PL. We needed cover at fullback and we needed good, solid defenders. Good at their job. IMHO we were ok at CB. Dunk, Duffy, Hunny Goldson looked up to it. In midfield, we needed more pace and drive to support the good but languid Stephens, the industrious Kayal ( injured early ) and the ageing and slowing Sidwell. Out wide, we didn't need a lot. Maybe one more winger, again, with pace and power but it was really the least of our worries.
So there it is. Pretty obvious to most of us.
We have ended up with....
1) GK.....small, doesn't command his area, no presence
2) RB.....very late last night. Pedigree ok but time will tell.
3) LB......Ok going forward, under no pressure. Looks weak defensively and has already been turned inside out by opponents in just 3 games.
4 ) CM....needed pace and power to support Stephens. We got Davy Propper. Languid, needs time on the ball. Inconsistent passer, regularly caught in possession.
5) Attcking Mid. Key area. Breaking quick on the counter, with an eye for goal. We got Pascal Gross. Again lacking pace and not getting on the end of anything. With no quick strikers, this guy needs to be like manure off a shovel. He isn't.
6) Wide. Looks like we might have got one thing right. The Colombian, on the evidence of a few minutes could be dynamic. Time will tell how much space he gets.
Weighing it all up and considering the level we are buying at ( mid-range ) in the market, I would consider that we could have done a helluva lot better. A number of failed medicals suggests lack of homework or a level of naivety, that we simply shouldn't be showing at this level. We have had four months to hone a squad into potential survivalists and at present, we look extremely unlikely to score enough goals to survive. We have already played against Leicester ( 14th worst defence last season ) and Watford ( 17th ) and failed to score. It doesn't augur well.

 

[easynow]

I think a lot of people are going to feel numb this morning.

I hurt myself today
To see if I still feel
I focus on the pain
The only thing that's real

 

[Notters]

He may be secretly fuming. I am openly fuming.
Since July 1st, our recruitment ( or lack of it ) has been a shambles. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that the majority of PL players possess the following attributes in lesser or greater degree. Pace, physicality and speed of thought. It is also patently obvious that the key to survival at this level is to score at least 40 goals and by doing so, reach as close to 40 points as possible.
We achieved promotion with two good Championship strikers, both, not very mobile and lacking pace but capable of scoring reasonably regularly at that level. They were supported by Baldock, who is lightweight, lacks a top strikers instinct and is injury prone. He runs into space a lot and that encourages fans to think he could do it at a higher level. He won't. Decent at Div 1/Championship level but clearly lacking the class for anything higher. It was likely that these three would struggle to get 15 goals between them this season. Therefore, it was clear to all and sundry that we needed to loan out one of these three and recruit two new strikers, both with pace and with the potential to get 6 - 8 goals each.
We clearly needed another keeper. Preferably big and strong to cope with the power in the PL. We needed cover at fullback and we needed good, solid defenders. Good at their job. IMHO we were ok at CB. Dunk, Duffy, Hunny Goldson looked up to it. In midfield, we needed more pace and drive to support the good but languid Stephens, the industrious Kayal ( injured early ) and the ageing and slowing Sidwell. Out wide, we didn't need a lot. Maybe one more winger, again, with pace and power but it was really the least of our worries.
So there it is. Pretty obvious to most of us.
We have ended up with....
1) GK.....small, doesn't command his area, no presence
2) RB.....very late last night. Pedigree ok but time will tell.
3) LB......Ok going forward, under no pressure. Looks weak defensively and has already been turned inside out by opponents in just 3 games.
4 ) CM....needed pace and power to support Stephens. We got Davy Propper. Languid, needs time on the ball. Inconsistent passer, regularly caught in possession.
5) Attcking Mid. Key area. Breaking quick on the counter, with an eye for goal. We got Pascal Gross. Again lacking pace and not getting on the end of anything. With no quick strikers, this guy needs to be like manure off a shovel. He isn't.
6) Wide. Looks like we might have got one thing right. The Colombian, on the evidence of a few minutes could be dynamic. Time will tell how much space he gets.
Weighing it all up and considering the level we are buying at ( mid-range ) in the market, I would consider that we could have done a helluva lot better. A number of failed medicals suggests lack of homework or a level of naivety, that we simply shouldn't be showing at this level. We have had four months to hone a squad into potential survivalists and at present, we look extremely unlikely to score enough goals to survive. We have already played against Leicester ( 14th worst defence last season ) and Watford ( 17th ) and failed to score. It doesn't augur well.

We didn't have our 2/3/4 main attacking threats on the pitch for the Leicester and Watford games?

 

[Don Tmatter]

He may be secretly fuming. I am openly fuming.
Since July 1st, our recruitment ( or lack of it ) has been a shambles. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that the majority of PL players possess the following attributes in lesser or greater degree. Pace, physicality and speed of thought. It is also patently obvious that the key to survival at this level is to score at least 40 goals and by doing so, reach as close to 40 points as possible.
We achieved promotion with two good Championship strikers, both, not very mobile and lacking pace but capable of scoring reasonably regularly at that level. They were supported by Baldock, who is lightweight, lacks a top strikers instinct and is injury prone. He runs into space a lot and that encourages fans to think he could do it at a higher level. He won't. Decent at Div 1/Championship level but clearly lacking the class for anything higher. It was likely that these three would struggle to get 15 goals between them this season. Therefore, it was clear to all and sundry that we needed to loan out one of these three and recruit two new strikers, both with pace and with the potential to get 6 - 8 goals each.
We clearly needed another keeper. Preferably big and strong to cope with the power in the PL. We needed cover at fullback and we needed good, solid defenders. Good at their job. IMHO we were ok at CB. Dunk, Duffy, Hunny Goldson looked up to it. In midfield, we needed more pace and drive to support the good but languid Stephens, the industrious Kayal ( injured early ) and the ageing and slowing Sidwell. Out wide, we didn't need a lot. Maybe one more winger, again, with pace and power but it was really the least of our worries.
So there it is. Pretty obvious to most of us.
We have ended up with....
1) GK.....small, doesn't command his area, no presence
2) RB.....very late last night. Pedigree ok but time will tell.
3) LB......Ok going forward, under no pressure. Looks weak defensively and has already been turned inside out by opponents in just 3 games.
4 ) CM....needed pace and power to support Stephens. We got Davy Propper. Languid, needs time on the ball. Inconsistent passer, regularly caught in possession.
5) Attcking Mid. Key area. Breaking quick on the counter, with an eye for goal. We got Pascal Gross. Again lacking pace and not getting on the end of anything. With no quick strikers, this guy needs to be like manure off a shovel. He isn't.
6) Wide. Looks like we might have got one thing right. The Colombian, on the evidence of a few minutes could be dynamic. Time will tell how much space he gets.
Weighing it all up and considering the level we are buying at ( mid-range ) in the market, I would consider that we could have done a helluva lot better. A number of failed medicals suggests lack of homework or a level of naivety, that we simply shouldn't be showing at this level. We have had four months to hone a squad into potential survivalists and at present, we look extremely unlikely to score enough goals to survive. We have already played against Leicester ( 14th worst defence last season ) and Watford ( 17th ) and failed to score. It doesn't augur well.

Nail on head.

 

[OzMike]

The Sun says that we got this bloke, Khouma Babacar.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

The Sun says that we got this bloke, Khouma Babacar.

No...someone got confused between that and " come to Babbacombe "

 

[Springal]

CH will be feeling let down. Screwed over in every premier league job he has had. He will get on with it but ultimately I believe he won't be here come the end of the season barring some miracle

 

[mune ni kamome]

He may be secretly fuming. I am openly fuming.
Since July 1st, our recruitment ( or lack of it ) has been a shambles. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that the majority of PL players possess the following attributes in lesser or greater degree. Pace, physicality and speed of thought. It is also patently obvious that the key to survival at this level is to score at least 40 goals and by doing so, reach as close to 40 points as possible.
We achieved promotion with two good Championship strikers, both, not very mobile and lacking pace but capable of scoring reasonably regularly at that level. They were supported by Baldock, who is lightweight, lacks a top strikers instinct and is injury prone. He runs into space a lot and that encourages fans to think he could do it at a higher level. He won't. Decent at Div 1/Championship level but clearly lacking the class for anything higher. It was likely that these three would struggle to get 15 goals between them this season. Therefore, it was clear to all and sundry that we needed to loan out one of these three and recruit two new strikers, both with pace and with the potential to get 6 - 8 goals each.
We clearly needed another keeper. Preferably big and strong to cope with the power in the PL. We needed cover at fullback and we needed good, solid defenders. Good at their job. IMHO we were ok at CB. Dunk, Duffy, Hunny Goldson looked up to it. In midfield, we needed more pace and drive to support the good but languid Stephens, the industrious Kayal ( injured early ) and the ageing and slowing Sidwell. Out wide, we didn't need a lot. Maybe one more winger, again, with pace and power but it was really the least of our worries.
So there it is. Pretty obvious to most of us.
We have ended up with....
1) GK.....small, doesn't command his area, no presence
2) RB.....very late last night. Pedigree ok but time will tell.
3) LB......Ok going forward, under no pressure. Looks weak defensively and has already been turned inside out by opponents in just 3 games.
4 ) CM....needed pace and power to support Stephens. We got Davy Propper. Languid, needs time on the ball. Inconsistent passer, regularly caught in possession.
5) Attcking Mid. Key area. Breaking quick on the counter, with an eye for goal. We got Pascal Gross. Again lacking pace and not getting on the end of anything. With no quick strikers, this guy needs to be like manure off a shovel. He isn't.
6) Wide. Looks like we might have got one thing right. The Colombian, on the evidence of a few minutes could be dynamic. Time will tell how much space he gets.
Weighing it all up and considering the level we are buying at ( mid-range ) in the market, I would consider that we could have done a helluva lot better. A number of failed medicals suggests lack of homework or a level of naivety, that we simply shouldn't be showing at this level. We have had four months to hone a squad into potential survivalists and at present, we look extremely unlikely to score enough goals to survive. We have already played against Leicester ( 14th worst defence last season ) and Watford ( 17th ) and failed to score. It doesn't augur well.

Disagree with this. Our strikers scored plenty of goals last year because they were set up by the fast counter attacks by the midfield and wingers. We still have those players and new ones besides. Just a case of everyone settling in and gelling to provide the chances. Given those chances you can get away with quite average strikers. Look at Sam Vokes. Looking like a world beater at the moment. Plus Dunky will take this league by storm coming up for corners and free kicks
Give it another six games and we'll be up to speed

 

[Commander]

Disagree with this. Our strikers scored plenty of goals last year because they were set up by the fast counter attacks by the midfield and wingers. We still have those players and new ones besides. Just a case of everyone settling in and gelling to provide the chances. Given those chances you can get away with quite average strikers. Look at Sam Vokes. Looking like a world beater at the moment. Plus Dunky will take this league by storm coming up for corners and free kicks
Give it another six games and we'll be up to speed

I hope you're right.

The thing is, if we put the ball on Murray's head anywhere around the 6 yard box, he will score a large percentage of those, regardless of it being a higher level. The problem is getting it there. You're right that average strikers can do well in this league, but they need to have chances created for them.

 

[Hugo Rune]

The Sun says that we got this bloke, Khouma Babacar.

I think there might be some truth in the fact Fiorentina accepted our offer.

He rejected us.

Babacar's agent was probably after £80k+ so the deal could not be done.

 

[Justice]

We needed someone to freshen things up even Jota would of been a help

 

[Weststander]

Stadium - tick
Training complex/academy - tick
Large support - tick
Incredible owner - tick
Promotion after 34 years of hurt - tick
Some great defenders/widemen - tick

PL-able player recruitment (pacey strikers/goals) - zero, despite having a timing advantage over other clubs.

Of all the areas to screw up. You couldn't make it up.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I hurt myself today
To see if I still feel
I focus on the pain
The only thing that's real

I love Trent Reznor but, seriously, get a grip!

 

[Weststander]

CH will be feeling let down. Screwed over in every premier league job he has had. He will get on with it but ultimately I believe he won't be here come the end of the season barring some miracle

He'll be the consummate gentleman as always. But if wins prove hard to get, he'll look even more drawn.

 

[Icy Gull]

Stadium - tick
Training complex/academy - tick
Large support - tick
Incredible owner - tick
Promotion after 34 years of hurt - tick
Some great defenders/widemen - tick

PL-able player recruitment (pacey strikers/goals) - zero, despite having a timing advantage over other clubs.

Of all the areas to screw up. You couldn't make it up.

Not to add a single striker over and above what was basically a very thin striker squad from last season really is a failure of enormous proportions. I just hope the club hold their hands up and don't try and soft soap us with bullshit.