Got something to say or just want fewer pesky ads? Join us... 😊

Scolari - WTF



Tooting Gull

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
11,033
'I don't want the three points ((yeah, right) I just want an apology from the referee'.

Because a goal was slightly offside. Who do these people think they are? Isn't that the nature of professional football, with the odd disappointment perhaps also reflected in your £5million a year salary.

Planet Premier League, it's at the other end of the galaxy.
 




CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
45,098
Scolari is a cock. He has absolutely nothing to his character that I find at all endearing.

Van Persie was still a couple of yards off though.
 


Couldn't Be Hyypia

We've come a long long way together
NSC Patron
Nov 12, 2006
16,732
Near Dorchester, Dorset
It's annoying - very annoying. ut in the end these things to even up - they really do, over a month, a season, over years. Managers should have the book thrown at them for questioning the refs or the refs should refuse to officiate in the managers games. That would shut them up.

If we work on the basis that ref's aren't cheating - then you have to accept every decision no matter what. They are assessed by the ref's and by the managers using a formal process - no excuse for coming out with this.

Players will NEVER shut the feck up if managers do this.
 


Elder for England

New member
Jan 30, 2008
2,388
Did you hear Van Persie's reply when asked about the offside goal, he said "two years ago I scored a goal that was onside but wasn't given, now I'm offside and it is given" Good response.
 


Tricky Dicky

New member
Jul 27, 2004
13,558
Sunny Shoreham
It's annoying - very annoying. ut in the end these things to even up - they really do, over a month, a season, over years. Managers should have the book thrown at them for questioning the refs or the refs should refuse to officiate in the managers games. That would shut them up.

If we work on the basis that ref's aren't cheating - then you have to accept every decision no matter what. They are assessed by the ref's and by the managers using a formal process - no excuse for coming out with this.

Players will NEVER shut the feck up if managers do this.

So, out of interest, if you got sacked because someone else made a blatant error, you wouldn't say anything ?

For managers results are all that matter and their job and reputation is on the line. Also, it's a psychological thing, if he complains now, it's possible the same ref in the future may be more inclinded to to err on his side. They all do it at every level.
 




keaton

Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
Nov 18, 2004
9,972
It's a shame he complained as he was one of the few nice managers in the premeirship. However he's not complaining about a marginal decision, it's a very blatant and obvious offside
 


Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
62,427
Location Location
Did you hear Van Persie's reply when asked about the offside goal, he said "two years ago I scored a goal that was onside but wasn't given, now I'm offside and it is given" Good response.

Hang on though - these things are supposed to even themselves up over the course of a SEASON. Now we're talking about 2 years ? I'm not sure thats acceptable.

Err....LINESMAN OUT.
 


TWOCHOICEStom

Well-known member
Sep 22, 2007
10,917
Brighton
It was offside and to be fair to him, he is one of the more honest managers in the league. So I'll let him have this little moan, as it was a big match. But the fact that Chelsea only had 1 shot on target in the whole game should have bothered him far more than a dodgy offside.
 




Couldn't Be Hyypia

We've come a long long way together
NSC Patron
Nov 12, 2006
16,732
Near Dorchester, Dorset
So, out of interest, if you got sacked because someone else made a blatant error, you wouldn't say anything ?

For managers results are all that matter and their job and reputation is on the line. Also, it's a psychological thing, if he complains now, it's possible the same ref in the future may be more inclinded to to err on his side. They all do it at every level.

There is a process in place already - managers and officials mark the ref for his performance. So Scolari does have a channel already in place to make his thoughts known.

The fact that they all do it doesn't make it right ffs. Football will never get better if players and managers are allowed to criticise the ref in public - either during or after a game. Follow the example of rugby and it will improve - but no one seriously seems to want to sort it out - so this will go on.
 


Skint Gull

New member
Jul 27, 2003
2,980
Watchin the boats go by
There is a process in place already - managers and officials mark the ref for his performance. So Scolari does have a channel already in place to make his thoughts known.

The fact that they all do it doesn't make it right ffs. Football will never get better if players and managers are allowed to criticise the ref in public - either during or after a game. Follow the example of rugby and it will improve - but no one seriously seems to want to sort it out - so this will go on.

Come off it. Is anyone seriously suggesting that he's not within his rights to have a pop after that decision.

As someone else has said, just a big a problem for him was how bad Chelsea were in the second half but that doesn't take anything away from the fact the offside goal was a shocking decision. Anyone who expects a manager is such a high profile and high pressure position to not say anything after that is having a laugh.
 


Elder for England

New member
Jan 30, 2008
2,388
It was a bad decision, but like most teams, if they lose they base it solely on that decision alone. Although out of their control the linesman was wrong but it's upto Chelsea to get on with the game and try to win it.
 




Tricky Dicky

New member
Jul 27, 2004
13,558
Sunny Shoreham
It was a bad decision, but like most teams, if they lose they base it solely on that decision alone. Although out of their control the linesman was wrong but it's upto Chelsea to get on with the game and try to win it.

That is true, but these things can have a big impact on teams durng a game. The team on the receiving end gets knocked and the team that is advantaged gets a lift. See how much united dipped after the Ronaldo sending off - that could easily have been a draw.
 


Elder for England

New member
Jan 30, 2008
2,388
That is true, but these things can have a big impact on teams durng a game. The team on the receiving end gets knocked and the team that is advantaged gets a lift. See how much united dipped after the Ronaldo sending off - that could easily have been a draw.

Of course, it does have a negative impact on the team the decision goes against but these things happen and you have to try and win, it's a couple of minutes out of 90+ and they can't create more than one shot on goal.
 


Dick Knights Mumm

Take me Home Falmer Road
Jul 5, 2003
19,736
Hither and Thither
Anyone who hasn't run the line under the current active/inactive guidelines should do so. It is an eye-opener as to how difficult it is. I appreciate these guys are more practiced than someone who does it once a week or so - but it is almost impossible.

Mistakes will be made.
 






keaton

Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
Nov 18, 2004
9,972
Anyone who hasn't run the line under the current active/inactive guidelines should do so. It is an eye-opener as to how difficult it is. I appreciate these guys are more practiced than someone who does it once a week or so - but it is almost impossible.

Mistakes will be made.

But he was standing clearly offside for the whole of the attack. The rules are not that complicated. You're offside if you're interfering with ball or the opposition and you're not at least level with a defender
 


Dick Knights Mumm

Take me Home Falmer Road
Jul 5, 2003
19,736
Hither and Thither
But he was standing clearly offside for the whole of the attack. The rules are not that complicated. You're offside if you're interfering with ball or the opposition and you're not at least level with a defender

You should take it up as it is all so simple.

As I said If you have not tried it - you should. It is a real eye-opener as to how difficult it is.
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,955
Surrey
Scholari moaned straight after the game because of a bad refereeing mistake, and I bet the FA throw the book at him for bringing the game into disrepute etc after his thinly veiled attack on the ref. Let me guess, a £5k fine and a 1 game touchline ban.
Meanwhile Chris Morgan gets a yellow for an outrageous example of utter thuggery which left Iain Hume fighting for his life, and somehow the gutless twats at the FA have washed their hands of the situation. No extra punishment there.

Really and truthfully, I find it hard to get annoyed at Scholari for wearing his heart on his sleeve, moments after the match has finished; especially as he's not actually wrong. And if the FA act on his remarks, they should be ASHAMED of themselves given their inertia over more serious incidents.
 




pasty

A different kind of pasty
Jul 5, 2003
31,040
West, West, West Sussex
Don't hear him moaning though about John Terry getting away with only a yellow card for jumping in with a two footed assault on an Arsenal player.

How the f*** was that not a red card?
 


Elder for England

New member
Jan 30, 2008
2,388
Anyone who hasn't run the line under the current active/inactive guidelines should do so. It is an eye-opener as to how difficult it is. I appreciate these guys are more practiced than someone who does it once a week or so - but it is almost impossible.

Mistakes will be made.

Of course there will be. Linesman have to be watching from when the ball was kicked in order to judge the player being offside and then wait to see if it goes to a player standing in an offside position when that ball was kicked.
 


Albion and Premier League latest from Sky Sports


Top
Link Here