Sami Hyypia

[bha100]

20 pages of Sami Hyypia and you just know it'll end up being Nathan Jones.

 

[beorhthelm]

when i saw this i thought he'd been managing a non-leaugue English side. now i see its Leverkusen. so what ex-Liverpool center back am i thinking of?

 

[Footsoldier]

Where did I say that I've written him of because of his nationality? I was mealy stating that British managers get clubs promoted (from championship) and that is hard 'facts' whether people like it or not.

 

[sydney]

my brother is outside a boozer in durrington and apparently sammy is at the amex and gettin GRILLED as to his asperations as we speak......i should add that my niece works at the ground , told him , and has been a filthy red fan all her adult life so she knows sami hyppia when shes see's him... aaah **** off any way.

 

[Footsoldier]

As many others have mentioned, the vast majority of promoted teams were managed by Brits. As were the vast majority of mid-table teams. And come to think of it the relegated teams.

Does this mean it's essential to have a British manager to get promoted, relegated or finish mid-table?

Hyypia has great experience of the English game, plus top level managerial experience. It seems strange to write him off due to his nationality.

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[seagully]

when i saw this i thought he'd been managing a non-leaugue English side. now i see its Leverkusen. so what ex-Liverpool center back am i thinking of?

Stephane Henchoz?

 

[Notters]

Where did I say that I've written him of because of his nationality? I was mealy stating that British managers get clubs promoted (from championship) and that is hard 'facts' whether people like it or not.

It is indeed hard fact, hard meaningless fact as explained by several people above. It's also a fact that I went on holiday to Canada in 1994, which is about as relevant.

 

[sten_super]

Where did I say that I've written him of because of his nationality? I was mealy stating that British managers get clubs promoted (from championship) and that is hard 'facts' whether people like it or not.

Brilliant. Completely disregard all of the common sense arguments that people offer and just stick to your guns, that's a good lad.

Using your logic as soon as Paul Ince gets us promoted to the Premier League we will have to sack him and bring in either a Scot or a Frenchman, as they've won the vast majority of Premier League titles. League success is guaranteed to follow. Because that's how football management works. It's solely based on nationality.

 

[Footsoldier]

Brilliant. Completely disregard all of the common sense arguments that people offer and just stick to your guns, that's a good lad.

Using your logic as soon as Paul Ince gets us promoted to the Premier League we will have to sack him and bring in either a Scot or a Frenchman, as they've won the vast majority of Premier League titles. League success is guaranteed to follow. Because that's how football management works. It's solely based on nationality.

 

[sten_super]

That's the logical extension of your argument, no? Most managers that have won promotion from the Championship were British, therefore we should appoint a Brit. Once we get there, the next aim (in theory) will be winning the Premier League, and most managers that have done that were Scottish or French, so we should appoint a Scot or a Frenchman.

My point is that this fallacy highlights the limit of your argument - that it's based off a tiny sample.

 

[ConfusedGloryHunter]

That's the logical extension of your argument, no? Most managers that have won promotion from the Championship were British, therefore we should appoint a Brit. Once we get there, the next aim (in theory) will be winning the Premier League, and most managers that have done that were Scottish or French, so we should appoint a Scot or a Frenchman.

My point is that this fallacy highlights the limit of your argument - that it's based off a tiny sample.

Or if you just want to avoid relegation get yourself a Uruguayan manager - 100% success rate

 

[Bakero]

Where did I say that I've written him of because of his nationality? I was mealy stating that British managers get clubs promoted (from championship) and that is hard 'facts' whether people like it or not.

I bow down to your powers of logic. You'd better get on the phone to Bloom and let him know before he makes a terrible mistake.

 

[Tricky Dicky]

Or if you just want to avoid relegation get yourself a Uruguayan manager - 100% success rate

I can't name a single Khazakh manager who's got a team promoted from the Championship - I hope we don't get one of those, we'd stand no chance.

 

[HawkTheSeagull]

Just to discredit the "British managers are more likely to be promoted than foreign managers" theory....... only FIVE of the 24 managers in the Championship this season werent British or Irish (only 2 last season)...so its obvious why more British managers have gone up !!

For the record, all managers in the last 3 seasons who have been relegated from the Championship have ALL been British - being foreign or not is totally irrelevant.

RE Hyypia, I'd be very, very happy with him as manager.

 

[gnjd_85]

I think the last 30 managers to have got relegated from the Championship have all been British, I think the best way to ensure relegation is to hire a Brit.

Someone like Paul Dickov, or Dean Saunders, who knows how to get teams out of this league

 

[Albumen]

Don't be silly. This argument about relegation is pointless as we all know that Bloom would never go down that route with relegation from the Championship so your argument is complete rubbish.

Oh that makes sense.

TB: What are your priorities for the season?
Candidate: Relegation
TB: Next!

 

[Sergei's Celebration]

267 Managers since the championship started
23 of them non-British/Irish (8%)

 

[HawkTheSeagull]

2006 was when the last foreign manager was relegated - that was Dario Gradi of Crewe Alexandra (we went down the same year, but who cares about that).

It was 2010 when a foreign manager was last promoted.

 

[Zebedee]

Bayer Leverkusen obviously didn't think much of him - so why should we have/want him?

 

[turienzo's lovechild]

2006 was when the last foreign manager was relegated - that was Dario Gradi of Crewe Alexandra (we went down the same year, but who cares about that).

It was 2010 when a foreign manager was last promoted.

gradi also grew up in england and played and managed his whole career here