[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[Sirnormangall]

Oh dear, what a pity, never mind...

Vladlen Tatarsky: Killing of pro-Kremlin blogger investigated as murder

A blast at a St Petersburg cafe killed Vladlen Tatarsky, who blogged from the Ukraine front line.

www.bbc.co.uk

We will defeat everyone, we will kill everyone, we will rob everyone as necessary. Just as we like it

Er, no you won't, you arsehole.

I think events like this are small but significant. The Russian population have been brain washed to think that the “special military operation” is all under control and successful. This incident will worry the ordinary man on the street. Though no doubt the Kremlin will try to put their usual (Russia the victim) spin on it

 

[Thunder Bolt]

How on earth has the United Nations allowed Russia to take over the Presidency of the Security Council?

I give up.

 

[crookie]

Procedure is everything regrettably

 

[Eric the meek]

Lovely to read that the bomb was hidden inside the statue he was presented with . The partisans are very brave. Hopefully Prigozhin and others may receive presentations soon.

The Bellingcat spokesman suggested this about the attack:

1. Most likely cause was Ukraine.
2. A lower likelihood, but still possible, that it was an FSB style false flag operation to engender pro-war sentiment among the Russian people.
3. He pretty much dismissed the chance of it being due to partisans in an organised opposition effort from within Russia.

 

[NooBHA]

I saw an even better one than that but can't remember where. It might have been on Warthog.

It started of where a Russian guy being interviewed said something like. " The War is going well and to plan. We are achieving all our goals. We are achieving Denazification in Ukraine. We are achieving Demilitilisation in Ukraine . All our goals will soon be achieved when all the Russian Nazis are killed . And we will be Demilitarised when the Ukrainians destroy all our Russian weapons "

I thought that was a brilliant response .

 

[raymondo]

I saw an even better one than that but can't remember where. It might have been on Warthog.

It started of where a Russian guy being interviewed said something like. " The War is going well and to plan. We are achieving all our goals. We are achieving Denazification in Ukraine. We are achieving Demilitilisation in Ukraine . All our goals will soon be achieved when all the Russian Nazis are killed . And we will be Demilitarised when the Ukrainians destroy all our Russian weapons "

I thought that was a brilliant response .

I do enjoy it when an interviewee (in any situation) leads the question down the garden path...then turns it back 180 degrees

 

[raymondo]

How on earth has the United Nations allowed Russia to take over the Presidency of the Security Council?

I give up.

It's their turn. Does show how pretty useless these talking shops are though.

 

[raymondo]

The Bellingcat spokesman suggested this about the attack:

1. Most likely cause was Ukraine.
2. A lower likelihood, but still possible, that it was an FSB style false flag operation to engender pro-war sentiment among the Russian people.
3. He pretty much dismissed the chance of it being due to partisans in an organised opposition effort from within Russia.

I meant Ukrainians already living in Russia (and there are many). 'Partisan' has a fairly general definition I believe - pretty much any secret group fighting for a cause.
Anyway, yes I saw the Bellingcat interview... always interesting to hear their take on things .

 

[sparkie]

How on earth has the United Nations allowed Russia to take over the Presidency of the Security Council?

I give up.

I think it is only for a month. Not sure there is really much damage they can do which can't be undone in May.

 

[sparkie]

Lovely to read that the bomb was hidden inside the statue he was presented with . The partisans are very brave. Hopefully Prigozhin and others may receive presentations soon.

I've read that Prigozhin cancelled going to the cafe at the last minute. Not sure whether that is true but could he have been tipped off ?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I think it is only for a month. Not sure there is really much damage they can do which can't be undone in May.

The whole point of the UN is peace. Allowing Russia to have their ‘turn’ is tantamount to condoning war.

 

[raymondo]

I've read that Prigozhin cancelled going to the cafe at the last minute. Not sure whether that is true but could he have been tipped off ?

Interesting one. I wonder if the blogger had posted anything negative about Wagner?
It's weird...if it was a Russian war bloggers meet-up, how on earth could Ukraine have got an explosive into the statue prize

 

[NooBHA]

Interesting one. I wonder if the blogger had posted anything negative about Wagner?
It's weird...if it was a Russian war bloggers meet-up, how on earth could Ukraine have got an explosive into the statue prize

The woman who brought the statue in was a Ukrainian living in Russia. She is seen on CCTV and has been arrested. But they don't think she knew about it because she was standing close to him when it went off

 

[raymondo]

The woman who brought the statue in was a Ukrainian living in Russia. She is seen on CCTV and has been arrested. But they don't think she knew about it because she was standing close to him when it went off

I hadn't read that detail yet, where's your info from? Many of us clearly use different news feeds for Ukraine and I'm always interested in finding new ones. Many thanks

 

[NooBHA]

I hadn't read that detail yet, where's your info from? Many of us clearly use different news feeds for Ukraine and I'm always interested in finding new ones. Many thanks

The following are good for info videos

Warthog

Kanal 13

UATV

Once you start using them. Algorithms start to get sent to your phone from other good websites

 

[NooBHA]

The following are good for info videos

Warthog

Kanal 13

UATV

Once you start using them. Algorithms start to get sent to your phone from other good websites

Also TVP. Which is TV Poland English

 

[raymondo]

Also TVP. Which is TV Poland English

Thanks. The info about the Ukrainian woman bringing the package has reached the latest BBC bulletin now. I'll followup on your feeds .

 

[SeagullinExile]

Interesting one. I wonder if the blogger had posted anything negative about Wagner?
It's weird...if it was a Russian war bloggers meet-up, how on earth could Ukraine have got an explosive into the statue prize

Don’t think the statue was a prize. Everything I’ve seen states it was a gift.

Not sure Ukraine could of pulled this off. Russian citizens did this IMO. Possibly with limited support from Ukraine itself.

Attacks like this could become more prevalent going forward.

 

[NooBHA]

Thanks. The info about the Ukrainian woman bringing the package has reached the latest BBC bulletin now. I'll followup on your feeds .

Sternenko is brilliant today on it. I knew he would be and he didn't disappoint.

You might need to open it in a new page if you want the option for English subtitles - There is a really funny bit where he says. The only disappointing thing about this news is that, as Vladen usually trolls me, I am going to have one less Subscriber

 

[jakarta]

Oh Dear Vlad, that's a few more miles of frontier to look after...

Finland to join Nato military alliance on Tuesday

The move was prompted by Russia's invasion of Ukraine and comes after Turkey lifted its veto.

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