[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

Biden did threaten that Nord Stream 2 ‘would no longer exist’ if Russian invaded Ukraine, back in Feb…

Biden can't remember what he had for breakfast, let alone what he said in February.

 

[Eric the meek]

Someone correct my thought processes here, but doesn't the destruction of oil pipelines harm the Russian. war effort?

Surely their best chance is that European public support for Ukraine evaporates in the midst of a freezing winter and one by one renege on sanctions promises and take gas through the pipeline, thus providing the money to support the military effort of mobilising so many people.

Without the possibility of Russian gas, the political will to renege on sanctions evaporates as it has become impossible to get?

You're right of course Nobby, but since when did any decision by the Russians follow common sense?

 

[Nibbler]

Someone correct my thought processes here, but doesn't the destruction of oil pipelines harm the Russian. war effort?

Surely their best chance is that European public support for Ukraine evaporates in the midst of a freezing winter and one by one renege on sanctions promises and take gas through the pipeline, thus providing the money to support the military effort of mobilising so many people.

Without the possibility of Russian gas, the political will to renege on sanctions evaporates as it has become impossible to get?

Well rather incredibly, North Korea has more submarines than any other nation. Just sayin'.

https://armedforces.eu/navy/ranking_submarines

 

[KZNSeagull]

Yeh, something doesn't add up

It does add up if they can successfully shift the blame onto someone else. That is par for the course under Putin.

 

[Mellotron]

Yeh, something doesn't add up

Isn’t it that they’re trying to blame it on the US, to try to cause division between USA and Europe?

 

[Igzilla]

Isn’t it that they’re trying to blame it on the US, to try to cause division between USA and Europe?

As if anyone believes a word that Russia says.

 

[Jackthelad]

As if anyone believes a word that Russia says.

That's what America is hoping on. History tells us America loves to deceive and lie, they've done it countless times.

 

[wellquickwoody]

That's what America is hoping on. History tells us America loves to deceive and lie, they've done it countless times.

‘Reaches for tin foil hat’

 

[A1X]

As if anyone believes a word that Russia says.

There’ll be plenty online who do. The ones predisposed to think the worst of the US. Those paid to spread disinformation. Those Russia has by the balls. Conspiracy theorists.

 

[Jackthelad]

‘Reaches for tin foil hat’

*cough weapons of mass destruction

 

[Mellotron]

As if anyone believes a word that Russia says.

Of course not. Just saying why they’ve probably done it that way rather than just turn it off.

 

[Igzilla]

Reports that Lyman is now completely cut off, trapping the Russian forces.

 

[portslade seagull]

Reports that Lyman is now completely cut off, trapping the Russian forces.

In Russia they are probably reporting they have trapped Ukrainian forces in Lyman

 

[Weststander]

Sky News and BBC News both going big tonight, with no new info, that Putin will cut all transatlantic cables and all Norwegian gas/oil pipes to strangle the entire West into a complete defeat.

Aside from 24-7 UK hyperbole, if you listened these broadcasters, seriously, they could make you want to have lived in a different time or world.

 

[sparkie]

Sky News and BBC News both going big tonight, with no new info, that Putin will cut all transatlantic cables and all Norwegian gas/oil pipes to strangle the entire West into a complete defeat.

Aside from 24-7 UK hyperbole, if you listened these broadcasters, seriously, they could make you want to have lived in a different time or world.

That would be the end of his submarine fleet.

 

[Weststander]

That would be the end of his submarine fleet.

It would get dirty then, a proxy war evolving to direct NATO-Russo clashes. NATO and its EU partners, with their technological advantages, have planned for this for a long time.

 

[raymondo]

Isn’t it that they’re trying to blame it on the US, to try to cause division between USA and Europe?

It could well be that...or perhaps to say 'we can take out the gas pipeline from Norway to the EU anytime we want' ?

 

[Igzilla]

[tweet]1575197790401007616[/tweet]

 

[essbee1]

Sky News and BBC News both going big tonight, with no new info, that Putin will cut all transatlantic cables and all Norwegian gas/oil pipes to strangle the entire West into a complete defeat.

Aside from 24-7 UK hyperbole, if you listened these broadcasters, seriously, they could make you want to have lived in a different time or world.

What a naive c**t that prick is.

 

[essbee1]

He's slowly being strangled.