[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[raymondo]

This is interesting about the minerals 'deal'.

I've watched it to the end now. Very balanced, well thought through analysis. I feel more positive and hope he's right.
Also, remember that port infrastructure was in the deal (IIRC)- that mainly works if Odessa is protected, no?
Perhaps Trump plans to send loads of air defence.

 

[raymondo]

Confusion. Dementia. Incontinence. Take your pick.

Greenland not in your list

 

[vegster]

Starmer has just invited Trump for a second state visit.

Shameful

 

[SouthSaxon]

Starmer also corrects Trump’s lies on aid to Ukraine. Excellent.

 

[SouthSaxon]

Having watched that through, I’d say “so far, so good”.

 

[fly high]

Having watched that through, I’d say “so far, so good”.

Yep, perfect way to start, personal letter from the King and Starmer is now the best.

 

[Triggaaar]

He DID use the words very lightly re Zelenskiy.

It seems you were right (shock). When the point of Trump calling Zelenskyy was brought up Trump said 'Did I really say that?'

 

[marlowe]

Shameful

Yes it's unpalatable but necessary. Appealing to Trump's vanity for the good of Ukraine. They're just acknowledging Trump's shallowness which is something they know they can exploit, as they know they can't appeal to his sense of decency and humanity.

 

[SouthSaxon]

Yes it's unpalatable but necessary. Appealing to Trump's vanity for the good of Ukraine. They're just acknowledging Trump's shallowness which is something they know they can exploit, as they know they can't appeal to his sense of decency and humanity.

And explained by Starmer as if to a child.

 

[Brian Munich]

Yes it's unpalatable but necessary. Appealing to Trump's vanity for the good of Ukraine. They're just acknowledging Trump's shallowness which is something they know they can exploit, as they know they can't appeal to his sense of decency and humanity.

Ha! This is exactly what I've just written on the Donald Trump thread! It's like distracting a naughty dog with a tennis ball.

 

[Commander]

Shameful

Grow up FFS.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

Yes it's unpalatable but necessary. Appealing to Trump's vanity for the good of Ukraine. They're just acknowledging Trump's shallowness which is something they know they can exploit, as they know they can't appeal to his sense of decency and humanity.

It also takes him out of his lair and so he’ll lose some control which will make him nervous, especially if he has to deal with Charlie boy. It’ll be interesting and amusing in equal measures.

 

[portslade seagull]

Starmer has just invited Trump for a second state visit.

The Orange fool already thinks he's a king, he will probably try to buy Buckingham Palace to turn it into his 52nd state

 

[armchairclubber]

It seems you were right (shock). When the point of Trump calling Zelenskyy was brought up Trump said 'Did I really say that?'

Yes, he seems to be lying, one way or the other. He either said it, or he didn't.
Perhaps we'll get a new version later.

 

[raymondo]

It seems you were right (shock). When the point of Trump calling Zelenskyy was brought up Trump said 'Did I really say that?'

"did I really sign that free trade agreement with Mexico and Canada? nah...must have been someone else"

 

[raymondo]

The Orange fool already thinks he's a king, he will probably try to buy Buckingham Palace to turn it into his 52nd state

,"Trumpingham Palace...luxury apartments with balcony, communal gardens. Grade 2 listed".

 

[raymondo]

Yes it's unpalatable but necessary. Appealing to Trump's vanity for the good of Ukraine. They're just acknowledging Trump's shallowness which is something they know they can exploit, as they know they can't appeal to his sense of decency and humanity.

It's a relatively small gesture given the potential benefit to Ukraine and Europe/ UK in general.,

 

[JamesAndTheGiantHead]

Good diplomacy - invite from the King to pander to his ego, whilst the general public get to line the streets and call him a c**t again.

Win/win.

 

[raymondo]

Good diplomacy - invite from the King to pander to his ego, whilst the general public get to line the streets and call him a c**t again.

Win/win.

Best not do that on his journey to the Palace.
Zelenskiy has swallowed a lot of pride to keep him onside to get this far. Let's see how this evolves .

 

[Eric the meek]

Let nobody tell you the monarchy should be abolished. Today it proved again how valuable it is when we need to impress the Americans.

But wait. I can see a dilemma. Do we impress Trump with the top menu for dignitaries, or do we cut back to show how skint we are, and can't afford any more money for defence?