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Ron Paul 2012
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omgitsjames
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Ron Paul is my favorite republican politician. His views on civil liberties is spot on.
In regards to the election, he is not doing well. Rick Santorum has some strange extremist views yet he has more than double the delegates for the Republican party presidential nomination than congressman Paul
In regards to the election, he is not doing well. Rick Santorum has some strange extremist views yet he has more than double the delegates for the Republican party presidential nomination than congressman Paul
beorhthelm
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you know he's lost right? only keeping the campaign going to make money from donations to keep family and friends employed, it is after all their last time round as he cant realisitcally run again (well, wasnt realisitc this time either).
dingodan
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He does have a chance of winning. He needs a plurality of delegates in 5+ states to be eligible to have his name put forward as nominee. I think he already has a plurality in 5+ states at the moment.
The other thing that needs to happen is Mitt Romney needs to fail to get 1,144 votes on the first ballot. Some delegates are tied to Mitt Romney so even if they support Ron Paul they have to vote for Mitt Romney.
Romney has not yet reached 1,144 bound delegates, and a lot of the delegates being apportioned to him by the media are based on the straw poll %s he got. What is actually happening is Ron Paul supporters are taking over conventions across the country.
For example in Nevada. The media has Ron Paul down as having 8 delegates, to Mitt Rooney's 20, worked out proportionately in line with the straw vote. In reality, at the Nevada convention held over this past weekend, Ron Paul supporters took 22/25 of the available delegate slots.
In the event Romney does not reach 1,144 bound delegates, the convention will move to a second vote. At that point all delegates become unbound and can vote for whomever they choose. The majority of delegates at the convention may well be Ron Paul supporters waiting for a 2nd ballot.
dingodan
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Ron Paul is my favorite republican politician. His views on civil liberties is spot on.
In regards to the election, he is not doing well. Rick Santorum has some strange extremist views yet he has more than double the delegates for the Republican party presidential nomination than congressman Paul
See above on the delegate count
Lyndhurst 14
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I want to see Obama get a second term – but if a Republican had to win I’d agree with omgitsjames that Ron Paul would be the best of the bunch. He actually comes across as a real politician unlike all the other GOP candidates, and he has a grasp of international politics. What was very noticeable is how little media coverage he got – both from within the US and also from outside broadcasters like the BBC.
dingodan
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The lack of coverage is because he is a threat to the establishment. To the large banks and multinational corporations, which own the 5 major networks in the US.
Why in the world would you want Obama to get a second term? Obama has been an awful President, he has continued and expanded the Presidency of George Bush. And I think if Mitt Romney were to beat Obama (which I don't think he would) once again I don't think you would see a difference. It could go Bush to Obama to Romney and nobody would notice any difference in terms of policy. That is the problem. And that is why Ron Paul is so important.
Hatterlovesbrighton
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i want to like him but i fear he is "controlled by lizards opposition." alas, he will never get in.
Fixed that for you.
Tyrone Biggums
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Important to what?
Tyrone Biggums
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Ron Paul is a true Libertarian, which I don't mind at all.
But his ideal style of government is to become far more insular and give the rest of the world a big ole f*** you raised finger and turn its back on the world.
He'd cut all foreign aid, he'd pull all military support from around the globe.
The negative vacuum effect that would have around the planet could be disastrous for many areas.
But his ideal style of government is to become far more insular and give the rest of the world a big ole f*** you raised finger and turn its back on the world.
He'd cut all foreign aid, he'd pull all military support from around the globe.
The negative vacuum effect that would have around the planet could be disastrous for many areas.
sten_super
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I think he's run a good campaign, and I think he's probably preferable to any of the other Republican candidates. What concerns me is that he has campaigned on very moderate policies, whereas his true beliefs (full on libertarianism) are somewhat more 'extreme'. Having said that, if he ever did manage to get elected, I'm sure he'd end up being relatively moderate, as all elected politicians are.
Tom Bombadil
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Ron Paul is irrelevant.He appeals to dingodan. He isn't going to appeal to people that have a grasp on reality.
Jello Biafra
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Ron Paul groupies at the Amex, LOL! Are any of you doughnuts actually septics or just extremist Daily Mail readers? Ron Paul is a nutter, face it (though that doesn't necessarily mean he's worse than Romney).
dingodan
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You assessment is incorrect.
"It is not we non-interventionists who are isolationsists. The real isolationists are those who impose sanctions and embargoes on countries and peoples across the globe because they disagree with the internal and foreign policies of their leaders. The real isolationists are those who choose to use force overseas to promote democracy, rather than seek change through diplomacy, engagement, and by setting a positive example." - Ron Paul
"The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people." - Ron Paul
Military force is justified only in self-defense; naked aggression is the province of dictators and rogue states. This is the danger of a new "preemptive first strike" doctrine. - Ron Paul
Philzo-93
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Studying politics at the moment...I am VERY concerned at what I am reading and noticing a few "Paulites" in this forum at the moment (or at most, sympathisers).
Civil rights laws are not spot on but his economic agenda is one to take note. Nonetheless, he is still as much of a nut job as Santourm, Romney and Gingrich.
Besides, Obama will win hands down.
Civil rights laws are not spot on but his economic agenda is one to take note. Nonetheless, he is still as much of a nut job as Santourm, Romney and Gingrich.
Besides, Obama will win hands down.
dingodan
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There is nothing extreme about the rule of law, the constitution, sound money and personal liberty. What is extreme is abandoning the rule of law, counterfeiting money, and undermining personal liberty.
He would not be "moderate". Moderating his views is not something he is renowned for, in fact his record suggests he is unmovable.