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Roadmap out of lockdown



The Wizard

Well-known member
Jul 2, 2009
18,401
Sturgeon saying it’s too early to ease lockdown, judging by Scottish figures she could be right, they haven’t come down as much as England/Wales
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,029
If you don't think Number 10 is leaking anything to the press, then you're naive.


Boris should not be making statements to the public. The Speaker has already said any statement should be made in Parliament, with proper procedure. Nichola Sturgeon is also stating this.
Accountability.

there's no point making an issue of where or how it is announced. the lockdown was announced on TV wasnt it? the extension was on TV. this is continuation. parliament can discuss the detail and impacts in following days, unless we want a debate and vote?
 


atomised

Well-known member
Mar 21, 2013
5,170
Interesting that many of the stories refer to the potential for premier league returning at the end of June in this road map
 


Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,482
Brighton
Address confirmed to be made by Johnson on Sunday at 7pm.
 


e77

Well-known member
May 23, 2004
7,270
Worthing
I suspect the restriction will be being allowed out to exercise more than once (which was always a difficult one to Police anyway) and trying to get some shops and workplaces back open.
 




Titanic

Super Moderator
Helpful Moderator
Jul 5, 2003
39,930
West Sussex
I suspect the restriction will be being allowed out to exercise more than once (which was always a difficult one to Police anyway) and trying to get some shops and workplaces back open.

that sounds about right... and possibly slightly extended family groups.
 


Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
25,497
Sussex by the Sea
I DEMAND the reopening of the local Barber Shop

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jabba

Well-known member
Jul 15, 2009
1,342
York
A lot of any proposed timetable will rest on if there is a rise in coronavirus infections after a couple of weeks of fewer restrictions in place?

Looking at the "sombrero" likely as much virus in circulation now as when we entered lockdown.
 


Weststander

Well-known member
Aug 25, 2011
69,372
Withdean area
I suspect the restriction will be being allowed out to exercise more than once (which was always a difficult one to Police anyway) and trying to get some shops and workplaces back open.

My guesses on reopening:

Small shops.
Barbers and salons, only with face masks. Tricky with haircuts!
Households can socialise together, at a maximum of two at a time.
All of construction sector back, if they aren’t already.
Outdoor cafes and restaurant seating, only where sufficient spacing.
 


Bodian

Well-known member
May 3, 2012
14,289
Cumbria
Unlikely to matter what BoJo says now. The tabloids have spoken - and as people remember what they were first told, and not the actual detail later, this is what will stick in their minds. And as BoJo's MO is basically 'put something half-arsed out there, see what direction the press and public are going in - then pretend I'm leading on it', then this is probably what he will be doing.

This is too consistent a message from the media to be co-incidental. Not just the tabloids either - Telegraph and Guardian have the same stuff.
 




atomised

Well-known member
Mar 21, 2013
5,170
It does seem very much like something was leaked to the press to test the water and now they are trying desperately to reign it in
 


Weststander

Well-known member
Aug 25, 2011
69,372
Withdean area
If you don't think Number 10 is leaking anything to the press, then you're naive.


Boris should not be making statements to the public. The Speaker has already said any statement should be made in Parliament, with proper procedure. Nichola Sturgeon is also stating this.
Accountability.

On 23 April 2020 Sturgeon announced Scotland’s blueprint for easing lockdown. Championed by opponents of Johnson at the time as amazing, if only had England announced a blueprint, life would be so much different. But since then, completely parked, as Scotland’s deaths and new cases grow at pace. Sturgeon announced the blueprint at a briefing, not to Scottish politicians.

On 10 May 2020 Johnson will announce England’s blueprint for easing lockdown to a briefing.

What’s the difference?
 


wehatepalace

Limbs
NSC Patron
Apr 27, 2004
7,334
Pease Pottage
From the Mirror.



For seasonal Flu?

I hope this is just the Mirror speculating and not actual government policy.

I read last week that seasonal flu has killed 32,000 people this year and that the flu vaccine was as successful as in previous years, so guessing another serious flu season alongside covid would mean a lot of deaths again.
 




Weststander

Well-known member
Aug 25, 2011
69,372
Withdean area
I read last week that seasonal flu has killed 32,000 people this year and that the flu vaccine was as successful as in previous years, so guessing another serious flu season alongside covid would mean a lot of deaths again.

That’s exactly what the reputable head of CDC said in the USA a couple of weeks ago, about autumn 2020. Trump then tried to get him to say he never said that, in front of the world’s cameras, but the scientist repeated the truth.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
On 23 April 2020 Sturgeon announced Scotland’s blueprint for easing lockdown. Championed by opponents of Johnson at the time as amazing, if only had England announced a blueprint, life would be so much different. But since then, completely parked, as Scotland’s deaths and new cases grow at pace. Sturgeon announced the blueprint at a briefing, not to Scottish politicians.

On 10 May 2020 Johnson will announce England’s blueprint for easing lockdown to a briefing.

What’s the difference?

The Speaker of the House of Commons stating parliamentary procedure. I don’t know the Scottish procedure.
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
I mention this because you added Sturgeon into your post, to support the view of the Speaker and yourself.

Sturgeon didn’t practice what she preaches.

I mentioned Sturgeon because she said it herself today. I don’t know parliamentary procedure, but I presumed what the Speaker said was true. After all, he isn’t John Bercow.
 




WilburySeagull

New member
Sep 2, 2017
495
Hove
I mention this because you added Sturgeon into your post, to support the view of the Speaker and yourself.

Sturgeon didn’t practice what she preaches.

I dont much care who announces to whom but the trailing of the likely change before the public holiday was either stupid or deliberately designed to incite people to break the current rules prematurely. Maybe one of the ministers in the lets finish the lockdown quick group thought he could create facts on the ground in spite of the risks.
 


pb21

Well-known member
Apr 23, 2010
6,690
I dont much care who announces to whom but the trailing of the likely change before the public holiday was either stupid or deliberately designed to incite people to break the current rules prematurely. Maybe one of the ministers in the lets finish the lockdown quick group thought he could create facts on the ground in spite of the risks.

IMO the lockdown has been unofficially increasingly relaxed over the last week or two. I think this is expected/intentional; I can imagine it would be preferable for changes to be as gradual as possible.
 


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