Richard Branson is suing the NHS

[spring hall convert]

From The Financial Times

"Virgin Care sues NHS after losing Surrey child services deal."

"Branson-run group disputes three-year contract worth £82m given to consortium."

https://www.ft.com/content/297e7714-089f-11e7-97d1-5e720a26771b

Sour grapes?

 

[Ernest]

In contention for the most hated man in the country

 

[Guinness Boy]

From The Financial Times

"Virgin Care sues NHS after losing Surrey child services deal."

"Branson-run group disputes three-year contract worth £82m given to consortium."

https://www.ft.com/content/297e7714-089f-11e7-97d1-5e720a26771b

Sour grapes?

Cuddly hippy* Richard Branson? Surely not.


*ruthless businessman


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[ferring seagull]

He (RB) accordingly goes substantially down in my estimation if indeed he was aware !

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Can't read the article BUT I have worked in the private sector delivering services to the MOD, NHS, as well as local and central government. The over riding theme is that they will say they want one thing and then either change their mind half way through and look rather upset when you tell them that change will cost £x. Or they will say at point of delivery 'Yes, we said we wanted x but surely you realised we really wanted y'. Don't know their arse from their elbow generally. And that before you factor in politics.

So until I can read the article I'm likely to lean towards Branson being in the right.

 

[Beach Hut]

When First won the West Coast franchise and RB pointed out the sums were wrong he was entirely correct however I suspect sour grapes

 

[LamieRobertson]

Can't read the article BUT I have worked in the private sector delivering services to the MOD, NHS, as well as local and central government. The over riding theme is that they will say they want one thing and then either change their mind half way through and look rather upset when you tell them that change will cost £x. Or they will say at point of delivery 'Yes, we said we wanted x but surely you realised we really wanted y'. Don't know their arse from their elbow generally. And that before you factor in politics.

So until I can read the article I'm likely to lean towards Branson being in the right.

Oh..Ernest won't be happy with you leaning that way 'moo'

 

[Guinness Boy]

Can't read the article BUT I have worked in the private sector delivering services to the MOD, NHS, as well as local and central government. The over riding theme is that they will say they want one thing and then either change their mind half way through and look rather upset when you tell them that change will cost £x. Or they will say at point of delivery 'Yes, we said we wanted x but surely you realised we really wanted y'. Don't know their arse from their elbow generally. And that before you factor in politics.

So until I can read the article I'm likely to lean towards Branson being in the right.

You say that like it doesn't happen when people in the private sector deliver services and projects to other people in the private sector.

In fact it can happen on any project where the people giving the requirements are inexperienced in doing so, and poor analysis and project management by the service provider inevitably makes things worse


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[Surf's Up]

Sadly he may have a case. The quality and competence levels of decision making on issues like competitive tendering for services in the NHS is not very high. I would be surprised if he didn't think he had a good case.

 

[bhanutz]

In contention for the most hated man in the country

He will lose to MICK CASH!

 

[clippedgull]

From The Financial Times

"Virgin Care sues NHS after losing Surrey child services deal."

"Branson-run group disputes three-year contract worth £82m given to consortium."

https://www.ft.com/content/297e7714-089f-11e7-97d1-5e720a26771b

Sour grapes?

What's the point of a link that we can't read?!?!?!

 

[Westdene Seagull]

You say that like it doesn't happen when people in the private sector deliver services and projects to other people in the private sector.

In fact it can happen on any project where the people giving the requirements are inexperienced in doing so, and poor analysis and project management by the service provider inevitably makes things worse


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Oh agreed but the difference is that in those cases it's only private money at stake. I'll give an example of the public sector politics in these types of projects. I worked on the original email project with the NHS many years ago with the EDS. It was to have a single email system for the whole NHS. There were many arguments between trusts about the look, feel and function of the system. To the point that the whole project broke down after around £1Bn being spent. All on something as simple as an email system and all for power and politics.

 

[cloud]

Not just power and politics, but the extensive use of consultants who have to justify their fees by recommending lots of changes.

 

[fork me]

Never trust a hippy...

 

[Is it PotG?]

From DB's book:

 

[Billy the Fish]

Not just power and politics, but the extensive use of consultants who have to justify their fees by recommending lots of changes.

Totally agree. I wrote about my experience with these tossers on the other NHS thread.

 

[Springal]

Dangerous society if the government are untouchable surely? If he has a case, what is the problem?

 

[Diablo]

In contention for the most hated men in the country

Railway strikers have to be near the top.

 

[Ernest]

Railway strikers have to be near the top.

I haven't heard of any railway strikers trying to take money from the NHS, have you ?

 

[Binney on acid]

Unquestionably the greatest self publicist of all time. Champion of zero hour contracts, a gentleman who probably pays less tax than anyone on this forum. Suffice to say, his photograph is not on my bedside table.