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Herr Tubthumper

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Any country that has a dual taxation policy with Spain would do.

Will she be freelancing or working permanently? If she is a freelancer it will be a lot easier.
 


BNthree

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There are jobs out there but a potential trip hazard that’s happened to colleagues of mine (required them to come back to the office ) is the tax issue of working in different countries - worth checking out before you go down this route. My company has a great flexible working policy - work where you want when you want (do hours to suit you) as long as our clients agree and it doesn’t impact on security (govt work) and their is no extra tax liability to the company

Was gonna say there’s all sorts of tax problems by living in a different country than where you’re employed.
 


Bakero

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Oct 9, 2010
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Will she be freelancing or working permanently? If she is a freelancer it will be a lot easier.

She's open to either. At the moment she's just looking into what opportunities are out there. The major doubt she's having is with her lack of experience outside of teaching. I'm sure she has many transferable skills but she's not too sure what she's qualified to do.
 


schmunk

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Jan 19, 2018
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Was gonna say there’s all sorts of tax problems by living in a different country than where you’re employed.

Possibly, but they'll generally be problems for your employer.

As a rule, you pay tax and social security where you live, the location of your employer doesn't affect that, but it can mean that e.g. a UK employer would need to register for Spanish payroll etc. and be bound by Spanish employment law. Many of these problems for the company go away if you are (legitimately) a contractor, or work through a Spanish agency which acts as your "employer of record".
 




father_and_son

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My girlfriend is at the end of her tether with her current job and is looking for a change.

One avenue she's exploring is finding work with a UK company which allows fully remote working. It would have to be 100% work from home as we live in Spain.

She has a first class honours in History and ten years experience in education. Having worked as a teacher, she's a great communicator, adaptable and highly organised.

She's open to different options but doesn't really know what opportunities exist or where to start looking. I've suggested she sends a cover letter to recruitment agencies to see what they can do.

Does the NSC hive mind have any suggestions?

Thanks :)

Ps. Before any jokes, I've already mooted the possibility of Only Fans but got shot down.

Whilst the company I work for isn't 100% remote, my team pretty much is. Being scattered all over the country we are notionally based in London but I go in once every other month at most.

The issue you'll find though is not the acceptance of 100% remote but the tax implications of employing someone overseas. It adds layers of cost to a business with complexities added to contracts, t&cs and paying in another currency and another tax regime.


Best of luck but they'll be a very shortlist of possible employers if you are looking at just UK owned/based.
 


Bakero

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Whilst the company I work for isn't 100% remote, my team pretty much is. Being scattered all over the country we are notionally based in London but I go in once every other month at most.

The issue you'll find though is not the acceptance of 100% remote but the tax implications of employing someone overseas. It adds layers of cost to a business with complexities added to contracts, t&cs and paying in another currency and another tax regime.


Best of luck but they'll be a very shortlist of possible employers if you are looking at just UK owned/based.

With the dual taxation policy, it shouldn't be an issue as far as I can see. She'd happily be paid in pounds into a UK account.
 








Bakero

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Thanks for all the contributions to this thread. Except yours [MENTION=70]Easy 10[/MENTION] - I already preempted your gag with my Only Fans reference :wrong:

I think we have a plan of action. She's going to create a LinkedIn profile, hit up some recruiters and start a blog with a view to perhaps getting into content writing via Upwork. Register on Otta too.
 


Eric the meek

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Thanks for all the contributions to this thread. Except yours [MENTION=70]Easy 10[/MENTION] - I already preempted your gag with my Only Fans reference :wrong:

I think we have a plan of action. She's going to create a LinkedIn profile, hit up some recruiters and start a blog with a view to perhaps getting into content writing via Upwork. Register on Otta too.

Sounds like a plan. With her history and teaching experience, could she produce educational history videos?
 




Arthur

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Thanks for all the contributions to this thread. Except yours [MENTION=70]Easy 10[/MENTION] - I already preempted your gag with my Only Fans reference :wrong:

I think we have a plan of action. She's going to create a LinkedIn profile, hit up some recruiters and start a blog with a view to perhaps getting into content writing via Upwork. Register on Otta too.

Bizarrely this thread popped on my twitter feed this morning.

https://twitter.com/ihteshamit/status/1577305411220373506

I've not heard of half the sites but might be worth checking out.

On an unrelated note is embedding tweets no longer working [MENTION=6886]Bozza[/MENTION] ??
 




schmunk

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Jan 19, 2018
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With the dual taxation policy, it shouldn't be an issue as far as I can see. She'd happily be paid in pounds into a UK account.
Firstly, it's not a "policy", it's a Treaty or Convention.

https://assets.publishing.service.g...ent_data/file/507409/spain-dtc_-_in_force.pdf

Secondly, if the employee is living and working in Spain only, the treaty has no impact on her position.

Thirdly, regardless of the action of the treaty, it doesn't absolve her UK employer of Spanish domestic payroll administration requirements (to the extent they are required, based on the specifics of her facts).

Please - stop giving tax advice.
 




RandyWanger

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We hire globally and have almost 50% of our workforce fully remote. Only 4 in Spain currently. We're 'A modern-day communications company' which translated to a global creative and media agency. Not sure if your wifes skillset is aligned with anything we're looking for but feel free to drop me a DM and I'll send you a link to our careers portal.
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

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Possibly, but they'll generally be problems for your employer.

As a rule, you pay tax and social security where you live, the location of your employer doesn't affect that, but it can mean that e.g. a UK employer would need to register for Spanish payroll etc. and be bound by Spanish employment law. Many of these problems for the company go away if you are (legitimately) a contractor, or work through a Spanish agency which acts as your "employer of record".

Or in the EU?
 


Westdene Seagull

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With the dual taxation policy, it shouldn't be an issue as far as I can see. She'd happily be paid in pounds into a UK account.

Wouldn't she be paying double tax then ? Income tax and NI in the UK and then whatever the equivilent is in Spain as she reisdes there.
 


Bakero

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Oct 9, 2010
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Firstly, it's not a "policy", it's a Treaty or Convention.

https://assets.publishing.service.g...ent_data/file/507409/spain-dtc_-_in_force.pdf

Secondly, if the employee is living and working in Spain only, the treaty has no impact on her position.

Thirdly, regardless of the action of the treaty, it doesn't absolve her UK employer of Spanish domestic payroll administration requirements (to the extent they are required, based on the specifics of her facts).

Please - stop giving tax advice.

I'm not giving tax advice. I'm replying to my own thread. Whatever option my girlfriend goes for, she'll seek advice from a tax specialist here.

Wouldn't she be paying double tax then ? Income tax and NI in the UK and then whatever the equivilent is in Spain as she reisdes there.

Whenever I've worked in England in the past whilst tax resident in Spain, I've been asked to fill in a form to ensure I don't get taxed twice.

With regard to NI, as I mentioned before she'd have to pay into the Spanish system. I know plenty of people that already do this.
 




schmunk

Why oh why oh why?
Jan 19, 2018
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Mid mid mid Sussex
Wouldn't she be paying double tax then ? Income tax and NI in the UK and then whatever the equivilent is in Spain as she reisdes there.

If she lives and works in Spain only* (based on the OP), why would she be liable to UK income tax and NI?

There's some potential UK payroll jiggery pokery for the UK employer, but actually if she has *never* lived or worked in the UK (which isn't clear) the employer can pay her gross (effectively PAYE code NT and NI table X) without any reporting to HMRC whatsoever.




*if, however, there is a significant UK nexus to her life (or any third country) it potentially gets significantly more complicated...
 


Bakero

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Oct 9, 2010
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If she lives and works in Spain only* (based on the OP), why would she be liable to UK income tax and NI?

There's some potential UK payroll jiggery pokery for the UK employer, but actually if she has *never* lived or worked in the UK (which isn't clear) the employer can pay her gross (effectively PAYE code NT and NI table X) without any reporting to HMRC whatsoever.




*if, however, there is a significant UK nexus to her life (or any third country) it potentially gets significantly more complicated...

She has lived and worked in the UK in the past.

It doesn't seem like payroll issues are insurmountable though. Plenty of companies do it and advertise remote working positions. Am I missing something?
 


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