sir albion
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What's more important to religious people...Their religion or offspring ?
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ATFC Seagull
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Unless you have something particular lined up to test this, I would argue the two aren't mutually exclusive.
Jehovah's witnesses don't think like that, God is always put first before offspring and family
ATFC Seagull
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In what way do they collide?
ThePaddy
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- Aug 27, 2013
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Family members who break certain Church rules are excommunicated and are not allowed to have any contact whatsoever with the rest of the family. They also try to refuse blood transfusions for their children.
The Westboro Baptist Church.
They're the sick ****ers who like to promote their beliefs by picketing funerals.
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
Be interesting to know why the OP has asked the question
What's more important to religious people...Their religion or offspring ?
That someone else continues their 'Father Christmas for grown ups ideology, and must be brainwashed, or taught the ways of the Lord as they call it otherwise people might figure out its all bullshit!!! I mean God loves us all apparently and created everything, so this all loving being gave us the gift of cancer and MS and even cystic fibrosis just to show us how much he loves us. But don't worry the religious amongst us will use the 'God works in mysterious ways answer'......well that really doesn't excuse fvck all does it and it's not very mysterious.
sir albion
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I work for a Christian company and they say that God comes before their off spring
I'm suggesting that many if not most would put their God before their off spring if the choice was lumped at them.This I find very disturbing as apparently you're better off dead than alive according to many religions as you'll go to a better place.
I find it interesting but disturbing
"There was never a time when the world began, because it goes round and round like a circle, and there is no place on a circle where it begins. Look at my watch, which tells the time; it goes round, and so the world repeats itself again and again. But just as the hour-hand of the watch goes up to twelve and down to six, so, too, there is day and night, waking and sleeping, living and dying, summer and winter. You can’t have any one of these without the other, because you wouldn’t be able to know what black is unless you had seen it side by side with white, or white unless side by side with black. In the same way, there are times when the world is, and times when it isn’t, for if the world went on and on without rest forever and ever, it would get horribly tired of itself. It comes and it goes. Now you see it; now you don’t. So because it doesn’t get tired of itself, it always comes back again after it disappears. It’s like your breath: it goes in and out, in and out, and if you try to hold it in all the time you feel terrible. It’s also like the game of hide-and-seek, because it’s always fun to find new ways of hiding, and to seek for someone who doesn’t always hide in the same place.
God also likes to play hide-and-seek, but because there is nothing outside God, He has no one but himself to play with. But He gets over this difficulty by pretending that He is not Himself. This is His way of hiding from Himself. He pretends that He is you and I and all the people in the world, all the animals, all the plants, all the rocks, and all the stars. In this way He has strange and wonderful adventures, some of which are terrible and frightening. But these are just like bad dreams, for when He wakes up they will disappear. Now when God plays hide and pretends that He is you and I, He does it so well that it takes Him a long time to remember where and how He hid Himself. But that’s the whole fun of it-just what He wanted to do. He doesn’t want to find Himself out too quickly, for that would spoil the game. That is why it is so difficult for you and me to find out that we are God in disguise, pretending not to be Himself. But when the game has gone on long enough, all of us will wake up, stop pretending, and remember that we are all one single Self-the God who is all that there is and who lives for ever and ever.
Of course, you must remember that God isn’t shaped like a person. People have skins and there is always something outside our skins. If there weren’t, we wouldn’t know the difference between what is inside and outside our bodies. But God has no skin and no shape because there isn’t any outside to Him. . . . The inside and the outside of God are the same. And though I have been talking about God as ‘He’ and not ’she,’ God isn’t a man or a woman. I didn’t say ‘it’ because we usually say ‘it’ for things that aren’t alive. God is the Self of the world, but you can’t see God for the same reason that, without a mirror, you can’t see your own eyes, and you certainly can’t bite your own teeth or look inside your head. Your self is that cleverly hidden because it is God hiding.
You may ask why God sometimes hides in the form of horrible people, or pretends to be people who suffer great disease and pain. Remember, first, that He isn’t really doing this to anyone but Himself. Remember, too, that in almost all the stories you enjoy there have to be bad people as well as good people, for the thrill of the tale is to find out how the good people will get the better of the bad. It’s the same as when we play cards. At the beginning of the game we shuffle them all into a mess, which is like the bad things in the world, but the point of the game is to put the mess into good order, and the one who does it best is the winner. Then we shuffle the cards once more and play again, and so it goes with the world."
- Alan Watts
God also likes to play hide-and-seek, but because there is nothing outside God, He has no one but himself to play with. But He gets over this difficulty by pretending that He is not Himself. This is His way of hiding from Himself. He pretends that He is you and I and all the people in the world, all the animals, all the plants, all the rocks, and all the stars. In this way He has strange and wonderful adventures, some of which are terrible and frightening. But these are just like bad dreams, for when He wakes up they will disappear. Now when God plays hide and pretends that He is you and I, He does it so well that it takes Him a long time to remember where and how He hid Himself. But that’s the whole fun of it-just what He wanted to do. He doesn’t want to find Himself out too quickly, for that would spoil the game. That is why it is so difficult for you and me to find out that we are God in disguise, pretending not to be Himself. But when the game has gone on long enough, all of us will wake up, stop pretending, and remember that we are all one single Self-the God who is all that there is and who lives for ever and ever.
Of course, you must remember that God isn’t shaped like a person. People have skins and there is always something outside our skins. If there weren’t, we wouldn’t know the difference between what is inside and outside our bodies. But God has no skin and no shape because there isn’t any outside to Him. . . . The inside and the outside of God are the same. And though I have been talking about God as ‘He’ and not ’she,’ God isn’t a man or a woman. I didn’t say ‘it’ because we usually say ‘it’ for things that aren’t alive. God is the Self of the world, but you can’t see God for the same reason that, without a mirror, you can’t see your own eyes, and you certainly can’t bite your own teeth or look inside your head. Your self is that cleverly hidden because it is God hiding.
You may ask why God sometimes hides in the form of horrible people, or pretends to be people who suffer great disease and pain. Remember, first, that He isn’t really doing this to anyone but Himself. Remember, too, that in almost all the stories you enjoy there have to be bad people as well as good people, for the thrill of the tale is to find out how the good people will get the better of the bad. It’s the same as when we play cards. At the beginning of the game we shuffle them all into a mess, which is like the bad things in the world, but the point of the game is to put the mess into good order, and the one who does it best is the winner. Then we shuffle the cards once more and play again, and so it goes with the world."
- Alan Watts
ATFC Seagull
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Aha, hatred towards people who dare to believe in some sort of religion. The last bastion of intolerance on NSC. And no, most religious people are not intolerant towards those who aren't, before you come back with that one.
symyjym
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Abraham was prepared to offer his son Isaac as a sacrifice to prove his belief in God. Allegedly
Gullflyinghigh
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- Apr 23, 2012
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Neither are most of those who aren't religious intolerant of those who are, unfortunately both sides have distinctly vocal minorities who do both a disservice.
Either way, christ knows (no pun intended) what the OP is on about, I very much doubt that many 'religious people' (apparently it matters not which religion) would value their deity of choice over their own children if asked to choose.
ATFC Seagull
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Couldn't agree more.
Nibble
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Religion is, of course, a man made concept. Total make believe, but made up by man and thus it reflects all of man's love and tolerance but also man's intolerance, hatred, frailties, insecurities, violence, etc. It's an extension of man and unfortunately as religious people are often weak of mind and independent spirit it reflects that aspect more than most.
turienzo's lovechild
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religion is the thing that NSC is most intolerant about and most hostile towards
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