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tedebear

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Jul 7, 2003
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crasher said:
tedebear said:
We have both, Red to remember the past and white to hope for a more peaceful future...

But why should wearing a red one imply that you AREN'T hoping for a more peaceful future. Who isn't?
tedebear said:

Its not so much the wearing thats as important as the money you have spent to purchase it. Your money in buying a red poppy goes to serving and ex-service men and women and their families.

The money for a white poppy through the PPU will educate people specifically children that there are better ways to end conflict than violence.

I think both are valid and worthwhile causes.
 






Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
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tedebear said:
Its not so much the wearing thats as important as the money you have spent to purchase it. Your money in buying a red poppy goes to serving and ex-service men and women and their families.

The money for a white poppy through the PPU will educate people specifically children that there are better ways to end conflict than violence.

I think both are valid and worthwhile causes.

Agree.
 


Commander

Arrogant Prat
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Apr 28, 2004
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Binney on acid said:
I'm a muslim & I find the wearing of red poppies deeply offensive.

Why?
 










Leekbrookgull

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Jul 14, 2005
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Lank,think you are right? Sure i was told the same thing,First flower to grow at the end of WW1,on the former battlefields.:albion:
 






Lankyseagull

One Step Beyond
Jul 25, 2006
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The Field of Uck
Leekbrookgull said:
Lank,think you are right? Sure i was told the same thing,First flower to grow at the end of WW1,on the former battlefields.:albion:

From www.ppu.org.uk/poppy/new/tx_poppy_red.html

Red Poppy - origins

Up to 10 million soldiers were killed in the First World War. It's not known how many civilians died as well, but the estimate is 1.4 million. In 1919 the traumatised survivors of the fighting began to find their way home.

Everyone who fought in Belgium and northern France had noticed the extraordinary persistence and profusion of an apparently fragile flower: the cornfield poppy, which splashed its blood-red blooms over the fields every summer. It blooms there to this day, on the fields now returned to the farming they were meant for, and from which the bones of the dead are still collected as the farmers' ploughs uncover them.

The returning American ex-servicemen made the red poppy their emblem. It was particularly associated with a poem written by a Canadian doctor, John McRae (he was killed in battle in 1915):


In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.




Enough said.
 


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