[Albion] Red Card

[teammelli]

It was no card or a red card.

Yellow card just shows they made up their own rules for this specific incident.

Rule being, he plays for Oil FC and Engerlund so gets off with a caution.

It's often said that in bigger games officials are hesitant to dish out reds for ruining the spectacle, this is a situation where a red would have made the game very interesting.

This is the same problem as in Ronaldo’s foul in the Iran World Cup match. If the elbow is accidental, then it is no card. If it is purposeful, then it is red card. There is no role for a yellow card in this situation. Just because he didn’t connect doesn’t mean it should be a yellow.

 

[Weststander]

This is the same problem as in Ronaldo’s foul in the Iran World Cup match. If the elbow is accidental, then it is no card. If it is purposeful, then it is red card. There is no role for a yellow card in this situation. Just because he didn’t connect doesn’t mean it should be a yellow.

Intent = red. Absolutely no need for the recipient to be pole axed.

 

[Gazwag]

They cheated Swansea out the quarter final due to no VAR and we were cheated today with VAR (I'm not saying we would have won but we were still cheated out of playing 60 odd minutes v 10 players).

I'm convinced if a City player had been barged in the penalty box like Knocky was they would have been given a penalty.

 

[LlcoolJ]

This is the same problem as in Ronaldo’s foul in the Iran World Cup match. If the elbow is accidental, then it is no card. If it is purposeful, then it is red card. There is no role for a yellow card in this situation. Just because he didn’t connect doesn’t mean it should be a yellow.

Spot on. They bottled it massively.

 

[METALMICKY]

100% red. Whether AJ copped for an injury or not. The intent was there.
Switch this incident around and you can be damn sure that AJ would have seen a red card!


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That's the defining point. There was intent. It doesn't matter that in slow motion it doesn't look too bad. Similarly, the fact that AJ admirably does not go down like a sack is irrelevant. What this VAR decision seems to support is that you could throw a punch and connect it will be a red but if you miss you will only get a yellow. Today's incident just proves that VAR won't the panacea for all decisions.

 

[Weststander]

It was no card or a red card.

Yellow card just shows they made up their own rules for this specific incident.

Rule being, he plays for Oil FC and Engerlund so gets off with a caution.

It's often said that in bigger games officials are hesitant to dish out reds for ruining the spectacle, this is a situation where a red would have made the game very interesting.

Plus I thought the pathetic VAR person didn’t want to reduce one team to ten men so early.

The time shouldn’t come into it, but almost always hapless officials bottle it.

 

[Eeyore]

I would love for the FA to explain how that wasn't a red, but Duffy's one against Palace was when they were almost identical incidents

They weren't. Duffy's was a clear sending off. He went head to head with van Aanholt and pushed him over. Walker didn't do that, it wasn't violent- as he parts with AJ he slides his forehead down. It's touch and go, but to send someone off for that ? It's not violent conduct, it's handbags. AJ could have been in just as much trouble for jumping on his inner thigh. I don't feel there was an injustice here. That said, if he had been sent off I would have just put it down to modern football and its intransigence at players getting a little upset now and then.

Then again, I come from a rugby background where the the ref would have just given a finger wagging and told everyone to grow up.

 

[WhingForPresident]

By the letter of the law, it's 100% a red. Had it been one of our players it would have been given.

 

[kevo]

They weren't. Duffy's was a clear sending off. He went head to head with van Aanholt and pushed him over. Walker didn't do that, it wasn't violent- as he parts with AJ he slides his forehead down. It's touch and go, but to send someone off for that ? It's not violent conduct, it's handbags. AJ could have been in just as much trouble for jumping on his inner thigh. I don't feel there was an injustice here. That said, if he had been sent off I would have just put it down to modern football and its intransigence at players getting a little upset now and then.

Then again, I come from a rugby background where the the ref would have just given a finger wagging and told everyone to grow up.

It may seem soft, but according to the rules of the game it is a red card. Seen countless players sent off for flicking their heads towards an opponent's with minimal contact.

 

[LlcoolJ]

They weren't. Duffy's was a clear sending off. He went head to head with van Aanholt and pushed him over. Walker didn't do that, it wasn't violent- as he parts with AJ he slides his forehead down. It's touch and go, but to send someone off for that ? It's not violent conduct, it's handbags. AJ could have been in just as much trouble for jumping on his inner thigh. I don't feel there was an injustice here. That said, if he had been sent off I would have just put it down to modern football and its intransigence at players getting a little upset now and then.

Then again, I come from a rugby background where the the ref would have just given a finger wagging and told everyone to grow up.

It's not rugby. The same rules do not apply re violent conduct. Obviously.

 

[AZ Gull]

Top 6 decision by Friend who was on duty at VAR today. One of ours would've seen red for the same offence guaranteed

The VA referee today were Paul Tierney, not Kevin Friend.

 

[PTC Gull]

The VA referee today were Paul Tierney, not Kevin Friend.

That’s what I heard on the TV.

 

[Dick Head]

I blame Jahanbakhsh. He should have been far more melodramatic. Football seems to be going in a pretty dark direction if theatrics and histrionics are playing an ever more decreasing role in the game. All it would have taken was an ostentatiously effeminate collapse, hand on face, and Walker would have seen red and we'd be in the final. What, exactly, are we paying him for?

 

[teammelli]

and we'd be in the final.

Bit of a leap at the end there, no?

 

[Dick Head]

Bit of a leap at the end there, no?

I was being overly despondent at the lack of campery from one of our most expensive players. Don't expect Jahanbakhsh to be be appearing on the red carpet at the Academy Awards any time soon. Shameful!

 

[Dick Head]

Bit of a leap at the end there, no?

Anyway, what are you doing still up? Insomnia?

 

[Mackenzie]

Poor decision from the officials, that was a sending off.

 

[neilbard]

Duffy got red for exactly the same thing against Palace, no consistency.

 

[Cozzy]

Rules of the game are very clear on 'head movement' towards an opponent ... dismissal no half measure its a straight red card as stated in the rule book ... so how a ref on the pitch and another in a box using different camera angles come to the conclusion its a yellow is beyond any known logic.

 

[OzMike]

Looks like 99% of everyone who comments on it on web thinks he should have gone off the pitch for what it’s worth.