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[Politics] Recreational drugs? New plans from Pritti Patel

















Guinness Boy

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What a stupid, incendiary tweet and first paragraph.

There's absolutely no mention of someone's class in the actual proposals so why the need to call out the middle class? Absolutely loads of coke and dope use at the football by young working class lads who are far more likely to get busted by a steward, OB or sniffer dog than someone doing a cheeky line at a private dinner party or a bump of mandy in a locked nightclub cubicle.

Another idiotic and populist proposal from someone about to lose her job. Still, at least it can become another form of spread betting, where the country can compare the number they think will be in a drugs education programme compared with the number of people we've successfully sent to Rwanda.
 




Thunder Bolt

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What a stupid, incendiary tweet and first paragraph.

There's absolutely no mention of someone's class in the actual proposals so why the need to call out the middle class? Absolutely loads of coke and dope use at the football by young working class lads who are far more likely to get busted by a steward, OB or sniffer dog than someone doing a cheeky line at a private dinner party or a bump of mandy in a locked nightclub cubicle.

Another idiotic and populist proposal from someone about to lose her job. Still, at least it can become another form of spread betting, where the country can compare the number they think will be in a drugs education programme compared with the number of people we've successfully sent to Rwanda.

Removing a passport and driving licence will prevent the person from voting.
 






happypig

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May 23, 2009
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There's been a "war on drugs" for at least 60 years yet drug use has gone up.

Removing a dealer is like grabbing a handful of water out of a bucket, there's no hole.

We need a sensible, grown up conversation about drug use with NOTHING off the table, until we have it the same problems will keep repeating.
 


Nobby Cybergoat

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It wouldn't stand up to any legal challenge ..... is one of the dozens of reasons this won't and can't happen
 




NooBHA

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They might as well shut down the Airlines as well then coz about 30% or more of the country would lose their passports. That 30% or more of the country would lose driving licences would lose driving licences . Loads of them have driving jobs, or jobs where a driving licence might be needed in some capacity. So it would put loads of people out of work.

These people making the laws in this country have no sense of reality on how a lot of ordinary people in this country live their lives.
 








Insel affe

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Brighton factually.....




southstandandy

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Jul 9, 2003
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Didn't realise that if you smoke a bit of cannabis here and there, you are highly likely to be done for Drug driving.

Apparently it can stay in your system for up to 4 days above the 2mg limit, which is apparently why so many drivers are being caught out.

A colleague of mine was convicted recently after smoking 3 or 4 joints on a Saturday and was pulled over on the Tuesday and was Still over the prescribed limit. Makes you think.
 


Peteinblack

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Urge the Tories to tackle poverty, bad employers or clamp-down on tax-dodging, and they say "No, that's State interference in people's lives, and an erosion of liberty. It's not the government's role."

Yet they're always happy for the State to intervene and punish people on 'moral' or 'lifestyle' issues, or when it will garner the applause of Daily Mail readers.

I'm not defending drug users, I hasten to add, but I do view this as another example of Tory hypocrisy over the perennial fine line between State intervention vs individual liberty - they're happy for the State to intervene against people they don't like.
 




Westdene Seagull

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At what point will these brainless idiots that supposedly run the country ( of all parties - i.e. MPs ) realise - PROHIBITION DOESN'T FVCKING WORK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 


Guinness Boy

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Removing a passport and driving licence will prevent the person from voting.

Well, this is the thing about poorly thought out, populist, nonsense legislation - it's full of holes. From the report:

"Offenders caught for a third time are likely to be convicted and as part of a civil court order, could be subject to an exclusion order banning them from a specific location like a nightclub.

Third-time offenders may also be given a drug tag monitoring their usage, and see their passports and driving licences confiscated."


There is a could, followed by a may, and this is your third time caught. There is nothing in there about how these recreational users will be caught, since the Police certainly don't have the ability to get warrants for massive **** off house parties, let alone a dozen white collar workers in a London flat who might have a line of Chang with the Port and they don't have the resources to police nightclubs which is why Security do it. If there is a specific bust at a club, one would imagine they'd be going after the dealers and / or club owners, not some 18 year old student with half a pill or a joint.

So the likelihood of this getting anywhere is, as I said, about as likely as us sending people cost effectively to Rwanda. It's another Patel back-of-a-fag-packet effort.

But, should anyone actually make it to stage three, they will, according to the Electoral Commission be able to get a free Voter ID from their local council.
 


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