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Recession CONTINUES



Uncle Spielberg

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Latest report

UK economy is still in recession

Retail sales were flat in September, which did not help overall growth
The UK economy unexpectedly contracted by 0.4% between July and September, according to official figures, meaning the country is still in recession.

It is the first time UK gross domestic product (GDP) has contracted for six consecutive quarters, since quarterly figures were first recorded in 1955.

But the figures could still be revised up or down at a later date, because this figure is only the first estimate.

GDP measures the total amount of goods and services produced by a country.

Quarterly growth of 0.2% had been expected in the figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS), although expectations had been tempered by recent figures showing no growth in retail sales in September, and a 2.5% decline in industrial output in August.


UK IN RECESSION

Following the unexpected news that the UK economy is still in recession, BBC News is spending the day looking at the state of the economy across the UK and the prospects for recovery.




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The unexpected decline in the services sector was the key factor behind the drop, with the distribution, catering and hotels sector performing particularly badly.

The economy contracted 5.2% compared with the same period last year, which was marginally better than the record figure of 5.5% in the previous three months.

The worse-than-expected GDP figures are likely to make the Bank of England consider extending its policy of quantitative easing.

Quantitative easing is the central bank's policy of printing money and using it to buy bonds from banks and other companies to help stimulate the economy.

"Back in August we had a worse-than-expected second-quarter GDP number and that is the reason that the Bank of England extended the quantitative easing programme," Bronwyn Curtis from HSBC told the BBC.

The £175bn already announced for the quantitative easing programme will have been spent by next month, so the strength of the third quarter GDP number will be important in deciding whether to extend it.
 




Uncle Spielberg

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Oh turn it in! You decided to become self employed did you not?

It is the truth Max sorry. People in employment must be loving the credit crunch. Same salary if not more, same benefits , lower mortgage payments and far more for your money. Lets hope it lasts 10 years eh.
 


The Large One

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Jul 7, 2003
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Yeah, salaried people - what a bunch of cushy poofy cunts.

f***ing wankers the lot of 'em with their middle-class lifestyles, and nothing-to-worry-about arrogance as they sip on their hoity-toity Blue Nun and have another Ferrero Rocher.
 


Curious Orange

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Jul 5, 2003
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Six quarters of recession... longer than the recent recessions in the 80s and 90s, and also the steepest fall... 5.9% decline in GDP over 18 months.

Just as well that Gordon Brown put an end to Tory boom and bust, and that we were so well placed to resist recession this time round. :nono:

:wrong:

Come along now, we all know that this recession is categorically nothing to do with Gordon, oh no, he saved the World you know - he said so.
 


CHAPPERS

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Jul 5, 2003
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It is the truth Max sorry. People in employment must be loving the credit crunch. Same salary if not more, same benefits , lower mortgage payments and far more for your money. Lets hope it lasts 10 years eh.

I've got a job, should I be feeling guilty? I don't get paid that well for what I do at all but I have given up certain benefits for steady income in a job that is (almost) recession proof. I'm not loving seeing people be made redundant at all, I think you're being a little bit out of order there.
 




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I've got a job, should I be feeling guilty? I don't get paid that well for what I do at all but I have given up certain benefits for steady income in a job that is (almost) recession proof. I'm not loving seeing people be made redundant at all, I think you're being a little bit out of order there.

Recession proof what are you a Bailiff?
 


El Presidente

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WHAT?? He got us in this mess of national and personal debt!

He is the reason why we are doing worse than France, Germany, Japan, USA, et al :mad:

Err........

Japan GDP -7.9%
USA GDP -3.8%

As for personal debt, I don't recall anyone but myself making the decision to borrow money. Perhaps it was different for you? To blame this on government is frankly ludicrous in a free economy.
 


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I have just completed an IN01 re a Reinsurance Consultancy. Might be an idea to cross it all out and start up a Payday Loan business they are the ones with soaring profits. When in Rome.
 




El Presidente

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It is the truth Max sorry. People in employment must be loving the credit crunch. Same salary if not more, same benefits , lower mortgage payments and far more for your money. Lets hope it lasts 10 years eh.

Not that you are bitter and twisted of course US. Making snide comments about people who have commited the 'crime' of having a job is a pretty low shot.
 




Titanic

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Err........

Japan GDP -7.9%
USA GDP -3.8%

As for personal debt, I don't recall anyone but myself making the decision to borrow money. Perhaps it was different for you? To blame this on government is frankly ludicrous in a free economy.

The UK is the only major economy still in recession... and this latest 0.4% fall is a further decline from a figure that was already low after the initial plunge. It is GRIM.

This governent has fuelled mortgage debt, personal debt and student debt by its choices in policy and regulation over the past 12 years... to suggest otherwise is frankly blinkered.
 




Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
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If your self employed you may empathise if your employed you cannot comment behind your cosy salalries, pension schemes, holiday pay and sick pay. The self employed have taken the brunt of the last 2 years.

Strange all the usual lefties have had a pop, then again ...........

And your choice to be self employed and reap the benefits in good times so you can't have your cake and eat it
 
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seagullsovergrimsby

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Anyone blaming Nick Griffin yet for the latest dip ? :lolol:
 




Uncle Spielberg

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I've got a job, should I be feeling guilty? I don't get paid that well for what I do at all but I have given up certain benefits for steady income in a job that is (almost) recession proof. I'm not loving seeing people be made redundant at all, I think you're being a little bit out of order there.

Lets get this straight. I am not attacking anyone. I am stating the FACTS that people who are employed and not struggling with the recession infact quite the opposite. They will still be earning the same money and have far more spending power with lower mortgage payments and far more goods for you money now. These are indisputable facts. If people who are employed get laid off they have the safety net usually after a certain period of employment of a redundancy package. Self employed people whose incomes have been obliterated do not get a redunancy package. They also do not get pension schemes, meal vouchers, holiday pay, sick pay etc. I am talking about self employed people across the whole range of industries whose income and prospects have either been bad to a scale of catestrophic.

If people can aruge that they are not better off through the credit crunch if they are still employed with the facts above I am all ears.
 


Uncle Spielberg

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Not that you are bitter and twisted of course US. Making snide comments about people who have commited the 'crime' of having a job is a pretty low shot.

Read below. I am stating people who are employed are better off now. Those are cold hard facts.
 




seagullsovergrimsby

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Aug 21, 2005
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I'm certainly no better off , rising bills have outstripped my regular take home pay so I now have to work another 8 hours a week compared to last year just to make ends meet. I dont have a mortgage to worry about.
 




Uncle Spielberg

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Is there something wrong with that??

No. I was stating the people who have suffered most through this recession that is all.
 




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