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Reason for CMS dip in form?



wallyback

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Jun 22, 2011
1,406
Brighton
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He certainly starting to change my life :-(
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,975
Surrey
The real reason is that he has finished his purple patch and is now reverting to the normal form that we saw last season.

I really hope I'm wrong, obviously.
 


Common as Mook

Not Posh as Fook
Jul 26, 2004
5,643
The real reason is that he has finished his purple patch and is now reverting to the normal form that we saw last season.

I really hope I'm wrong, obviously.

Or, his injury interrupted his real form and is now out of form. I'm a glass half full kind of guy
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,975
Surrey
Or, his injury interrupted his real form and is now out of form. I'm a glass half full kind of guy
I am too, sir. I genuinely hope I'm wrong, but to me, he doesn't look like a striker who is going to get us promoted. I'm not saying he's a league one striker, but he is massively overrated IMO.
 


supaseagull

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Feb 19, 2004
9,614
The United Kingdom of Mile Oak
Its simple - we've gone from a more direct style of play we were playing at the start of the season to a more possession based game again. The former suits his style more than the possession game.
 






Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,975
Surrey
Its simple - we've gone from a more direct style of play we were playing at the start of the season to a more possession based game again. The former suits his style more than the possession game.
I'm not sure this is true. Tactics aside, the fact is that you need to be clinical at the top end of the game, and you wouldn't trust any of our strikers to score from the penalty spot at the moment, let alone a perfectly presentable one-on-one at our arch rivals.
 


deletebeepbeepbeep

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May 12, 2009
21,811
Worth noting he scored most of his goals early last season before not scoring again for months. Hope that's not the case this season.

I think a lot of his problems are related to pressure, he's our only striker that's scoring and he plays every game when fit, we need one of the others to take some of the pressure off him.
 




ali jenkins

Thanks to Guinness Dave
Feb 9, 2006
9,896
Southwick
The problem is that we are only creating 1 or 2 good chances a game. Not even Messi and Ronaldo score every chance that they get so to expect CMS and Barnes to do so is silly. At the start of the season we were creating loads of chances and they were both scoring goals.
 


deletebeepbeepbeep

Well-known member
May 12, 2009
21,811
Its simple - we've gone from a more direct style of play we were playing at the start of the season to a more possession based game again. The former suits his style more than the possession game.

We are still creating a shit ton of chances like we did earlier this season they are just not being converted.
 


BLOCK F

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Feb 26, 2009
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Hasn't had a dip in form,he has reverted to his 'norm'.
Sadly has never really hit the heights or lived up to expectations since he arrived.
 












Rugrat

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Mar 13, 2011
10,224
Seaford
We are still creating a shit ton of chances like we did earlier this season they are just not being converted.

Not defending him, indeed it's a limitation but they are "not his sort of chances" I think

His first touch is pretty rank so cuts out an intricate 1-2 stuff around the edge of the box ... he's not much good at getting on the the end of crosses (although he has converted a few good ones) and I think 90% of his game is latching on to the ball over the top or slid through the channel (per Barnes last Saturday which he f***ed up).

So he's a one (maybe) two trick pony ... we'll get more out of him if we play that way but it will limit all other opportunities and make us predictable.

I like the bloke but he's got to develop his game pretty sharpish I reckon
 
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Stumpy Tim

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The problem is that we are only creating 1 or 2 good chances a game. Not even Messi and Ronaldo score every chance that they get so to expect CMS and Barnes to do so is silly. At the start of the season we were creating loads of chances and they were both scoring goals.

Utter nonsense. Palace aside, we've been creating shit loads of chances
 




Rugrat

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Mar 13, 2011
10,224
Seaford
He's almost 30.

Yeah I was going to say something about that but chose not to. There are examples of players developing (yet) further at his age but I accept they are in a large minority. I'm just trying to give him the benefit of the doubt ... he wouldn't have got any decent coaching at D&R and Posh probably made him worse with their "Charge!" approach to the game. When I was putting up my post I was just wondering if some decent coaching and focus could develop him. Hence using the word sharpish!

I still think he's got potential but it's getting increasingly difficult to have a meaningful argument to support that view
 






deletebeepbeepbeep

Well-known member
May 12, 2009
21,811
Yeah I was going to say something about that but chose not to. There are examples of players developing (yet) further at his age but I accept they are in a large minority. I'm just trying to give him the benefit of the doubt ... he wouldn't have got any decent coaching at D&R and Posh probably made him worse with their "Charge!" approach to the game. When I was putting up my post I was just wondering if some decent coaching and focus could develop him. Hence using the word sharpish!

I still think he's got potential but it's getting increasingly difficult to have a meaningful argument to support that view

I don't disagree that he's a good player and I like him a lot, as well as the Hoskins and Dobbie signings. They were all signings we have to be delighted with (I was beside myself with glee when we signed CMS, I can still remember where I was and what I was doing when I read twitter and all the rumours were coming out (SAD)), given the level of signings we were able to make for the 20 years previous to the last few years it would be wrong not to be happy with that, but for whatever reason they are unable to score with Poyet's tactics and to be honest I'm not exactly sure what sort of striker we need to resolve the situation.
 


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