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jcdenton08

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Phantom of the Opera, centre stalls seat 2004. 27 piece orchestra, original production - £45. Adjusted for inflation, £70.66 in 2020. Programme £3.

Phantom of the Opera, centre stalls seat 2021. 14 piece orchestra, "new" production - £89.50.
Programme price TBC.

Inflation averaged 2.9%, a like-for-like ticket increased in price by 26.6%.

This is a 23.7% increase above inflation.


Is this correct?
 






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Phantom of the Opera, centre stalls seat 2004. 27 piece orchestra, original production - £45. Adjusted for inflation, £70.66 in 2020. Programme £3.

Phantom of the Opera, centre stalls seat 2021. 14 piece orchestra, "new" production - £89.50.
Programme price TBC.

Inflation averaged 2.9%, a like-for-like ticket increased in price by 26.6%.

This is a 23.7% increase above inflation.


Is this correct?

Raise it with The Society of West End Musicals.


If you're lucky they'll make a song and dance about it.
 


schmunk

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If I understand your question correctly:

The price should have inflated (70.66-45)/45 = 57.0%

The price did inflate (89.50-45)/45 = 98.9%

The additional price inflation is (89.50-70.66)/45 = 41.9%


Edit: sorry, I didn't spot that one was 2020 and the other 2021, but what's a year between friends...?
 
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Aug 13, 2020
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£89 / £45 = 1.98, not 1.266 as it would be if the price had increased by 26%.


I'll say straight away that I'm not great at this sort of thing, so I'm happy to be corrected if wrong:
The equivalent inflation rate to get to £89 from £45 over 16 years is 4.35%. That is 1.45 percentage points over the average 2.9%, assuming that value is correct. Put another way, it's 1.5 times the average rate of inflation.
 




nwgull

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He's saying that last years theoretical (I think) price was £70.66 - presumably using the BoE inflation calculator.

In this case you're right, except inflation rates are currently <1% so it's even more.
 












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jackanada

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Got a "U" in maths, and all my mates are thick too

Phantom of the Opera, centre stalls seat 2004. 27 piece orchestra, original production - £45. Adjusted for inflation, £70.66 in 2020. Programme £3.

Phantom of the Opera, centre stalls seat 2021. 14 piece orchestra, "new" production - £89.50.
Programme price TBC.

Inflation averaged 2.9%, a like-for-like ticket increased in price by 26.6%.

This is a 23.7% increase above inflation.


Is this correct?

It's a 26.6% increase above inflation just like your question states.
 








Harry Wilson's tackle

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If I understand your question correctly:

The price should have inflated (70.66-45)/45 = 57.0%

The price did inflate (89.50-45)/45 = 98.9%

The additional price inflation is (89.50-70.66)/45 = 41.9%


Edit: sorry, I didn't spot that one was 2020 and the other 2021, but what's a year between friends...?

You need to correct it for change in orchestra size.
 


GT49er

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Got a "U" in maths, and all my mates are thick too



Phantom of the Opera, centre stalls seat 2004. 27 piece orchestra, original production - £45. Adjusted for inflation, £70.66 in 2020. Programme £3.

Phantom of the Opera, centre stalls seat 2021. 14 piece orchestra, "new" production - £89.50.
Programme price TBC.

Inflation averaged 2.9%, a like-for-like ticket increased in price by 26.6%.

This is a 23.7% increase above inflation.


Is this correct?

No, it''s a diabolical liberty!
 


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Triggaaar

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Inflation averaged 2.9%, a like-for-like ticket increased in price by 26.6%.

This is a 23.7% increase above inflation.

Is this correct?
No. If your figure of £70.66 was correct (I think it should be £73.16), then £89.50 would be 26.7% more than that, so that's 26.7% over 17 years.

Not 26.7% - 2.9% = 23.8% per year.

To get to £89.50, prices have risen by 4.1% per year (1.2% over your 2.9% inflation figure).
 


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